[kemba1291]

Damn it. I'm probably going to have to get this now More for the improved functionality than any of the other "upgrades".

What headphones are people using this with that you with moar power? I've never, ever needed to go above 60 on high gain. I mean, it's a dongle. You guys and your obsession with power output is a little weird to me.

There are other demanding headphones you know. My work is done with the HIby FC3, doesn't mean the same for others. Planar magnetics need plenty to reach their max potential.

 

[waveSounds]

There are other demanding headphones you know. My work is done with the HIby FC3, doesn't mean the same for others. Planar magnetics need plenty to reach their max potential.

Oh sure, I understand that. I meant in the application of use with a dongle, though. Maybe there are chaps out there taking their Abyss 1266s on the commute to work...

 

[kemba1291]

Oh sure, I understand that. I meant in the application of use with a dongle, though. Maybe there are chaps out there taking their Abyss 1266s on the commute to work...

Guy at my office brings his Sundara everyday.

 

[rlw6534]

There are other demanding headphones you know. My work is done with the HIby FC3, doesn't mean the same for others. Planar magnetics need plenty to reach their max potential.

Yeah, I use the FC3 with my iPhone for Apple Music and the lower power is actually a feature due to the limited current capability. I have never once felt that I needed more power with my IEMs. Obviously, I didn't buy it for my HD6XX...

But the S2 looks tempting.

 

[twister6]

There is one big improvement some might have missed, S2 will have Play/Pause/Skip functionality for remote control of the playback.

Regarding output power, makes me wonder if it is kept intentionally lower to avoid issues with iPhone compatibility due to current sourcing limitation. For example, at max volume W2 will source almost 160mA from iPhone and the power will be cut off, while at normal listening volume it is around 120-130mA which creates issues with some IEMs at volume over 70. Again, iPhone ONLY limitation. It's a simple math, higher power output means higher current draw from your phone battery since these dongles don't have built-in battery. So, with a higher power you are either draining phone battery faster or creating issues with iPhone compatibility. If you need to drive demanding headphone, dongles are not the way to go

Will have to check out how S2 compares to S1 and W2 once I have it.

 

[akde06]

There is one big improvement some might have missed, S2 will have Play/Pause/Skip functionality for remote control of the playback.

Regarding output power, makes me wonder if it is kept intentionally lower to avoid issues with iPhone compatibility due to current sourcing limitation. For example, at max volume W2 will source almost 160mA from iPhone and the power will be cut off, while at normal listening volume it is around 120-130mA which creates issues with some IEMs at volume over 70. Again, iPhone ONLY limitation. It's a simple math, higher power output means higher current draw from your phone battery since these dongles don't have built-in battery. So, with a higher power you are either draining phone battery faster or creating issues with iPhone compatibility. If you need to drive demanding headphone, dongles are not the way to go

Will have to check out how S2 compares to S1 and W2 once I have it.

Well explained

 

[akde06]

There is one big improvement some might have missed, S2 will have Play/Pause/Skip functionality for remote control of the playback.

Regarding output power, makes me wonder if it is kept intentionally lower to avoid issues with iPhone compatibility due to current sourcing limitation. For example, at max volume W2 will source almost 160mA from iPhone and the power will be cut off, while at normal listening volume it is around 120-130mA which creates issues with some IEMs at volume over 70. Again, iPhone ONLY limitation. It's a simple math, higher power output means higher current draw from your phone battery since these dongles don't have built-in battery. So, with a higher power you are either draining phone battery faster or creating issues with iPhone compatibility. If you need to drive demanding headphone, dongles are not the way to go

Will have to check out how S2 compares to S1 and W2 once I have it.

How do you say that at max vol s2 will draw 160mA from iphone. Can you explain?

 

[mico1964]

How do you say that at max vol s2 will draw 160mA from iphone. Can you explain?

He is referring to the current drawn by the W2, not by the S2.

 

[twister6]

How do you say that at max vol s2 will draw 160mA from iphone. Can you explain?

W2 does, not S1. S2 was just announced. Nobody has seen or heard it yet

 

[akde06]

He is referring to the current drawn by the W2, not by the S2.

Ok.

 

[akde06]

W2 does, not S1. S2 was just announced. Nobody has seen or heard it yet

W2 means luxery & precision w2?

 

[Rafinnnnnn15]

W2 significa lujo y precisión w2?

yes

 

[akde06]

yes

It's truly big brother of s1/S2. Any comments?

 

[twister6]

It's truly big brother of s1/S2. Any comments?

The jury is still out if S2 will be a big brother or a big sister But seriously, it was only announced last night. We only seen the picture and no impressions yet. S1 is on par with W1, W2 is a step up in sound quality. S2, will find out soon!

 

[Sulbh]

Can someone compare it to Fiio M11 plus or pro sound wise?