Lotoo PAW S1 - Designed for HIFI on the go with Lotoo PAW quality and the first USB DAC-AMP with dual 3.5mm & 4.4mm output
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Cause there is some upsample to highest player bit rate option in UApp, though in bit perfect mode it should all be off and only native stream be forwarded.

Your examples are MQA files, right?

I have a 2-sided view of UApp: on one hand it sounds more open, more revealing on both my Dx220 max and the yet returned DX300 (compared to Tidal native app), on the other hand it couldn't unfold up to maximum MQA sample rates of these players.
For streaming non-MQA flacs I still think it's top notch
 
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Cause there is some upsample to highest player bit rate option in UApp, though in bit perfect mode it should all be off and only native stream be forwarded.

Your examples are MQA files, right?

I have a 2-sided view of UApp: on one hand it sounds more open, more revealing on both my Dx220 max and the yet returned DX300 (compared to Tidal native app), on the other hand it couldn't unfold up to maximum MQA sample rates of these players.
For streaming non-MQA flacs I still think it's top notch
I think because it is using it's own UAPP hi-res driver, similar like ASIO on PC, bypassing Android own hi-res chip driver. If you don't closed UAPP properly, it's driver will not be released and you can't play any streaming app through the dac/amp. You can play Tidal directly from UAPP so you can use it's own driver. And other streaming services like JazzRadio.com by using Other Radio Stations setting. The Sting Songs is a hi-res audio, 24bit 44.1kHz while the other one is MQA downloaded file. Probably they need to update their app to sync accordingly with PAW S1. You have to use DoP if you planning to use DSD files. But the SQ is deliciously good.
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I am wondering what this Lotoo PAW S1 does, on many levels.
First I like the Sweet and None settings the most, on my IEMs and as source into headphones. It is truely musical, euphonic and exceptionally well tuned. (Black background, Harmann-like with slightly soft edges) Clearly better than DFR and at eye level with DFC. On the 4,4 jack balanced even superior. Kudos, Lotoo!

Though I am wondering why my S1 does seemingly upsample my data/music from my iPhone to 192/32 and from my Windows 10 laptop to 96/24 as it says so on the display.
Is this its normal behavior or do I have a setting issue with my firmware? And, can it play bit perfect as well and how?
 
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Ordered S1, to use with IE800, and JH Angie. Anyone tried it with these IEMs? :)
Currently using DFR, but will sell it. From everything I read, S1 is significant upgrade, and I always drooled over Lotoo DAPs, so this also has sentimental value. :)
 
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Hey everyone!

Happy UAPP and Lotoo Paw S1 user but tonight it started crashing on me for some unknown reason. The native Tidal app works but UAPP playing Tidal caused the whole phone to freeze. I uninstalled UAPP and tried to reinstall and now apparently my device (Google Pixel 4a) is no longer supported??? I attached a screencap. Just wondering if anyone has had this issue? Are there any other apps that can handle Tidal MQA I case I am SOL for UAPP?
 

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Finally S1 arrived
Will post some impressions with Andro Gold in some time
 

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First impression: awesome SQ on my Andro Golds, no comparison to Qudelix 5k.
The EQ settings are really nice to play around and able to improve synergy with your IEM.
So below impression applies for Andro Gold but can be different with other IEMs.
Best for me so far is "sweet" for more warm&juicy sound or "dental" for a little more stage and dryness (going into direction of DX Max tuning) setting, NearField, Farfield, Headphone are also nice, if I want to really kick it, then "Rock" but mostly that's a bit much :wink:
Volume significantly louder on my MacBook Pro 2018 than on my Iphone11Pro.

Really great dongle, I don't regret buying it
 
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Hey everyone!

Happy UAPP and Lotoo Paw S1 user but tonight it started crashing on me for some unknown reason. The native Tidal app works but UAPP playing Tidal caused the whole phone to freeze. I uninstalled UAPP and tried to reinstall and now apparently my device (Google Pixel 4a) is no longer supported??? I attached a screencap. Just wondering if anyone has had this issue? Are there any other apps that can handle Tidal MQA I case I am SOL for UAPP?
Better send an e-mail to the developer regarding the matters. Some said it had some issue with Google Music (now has been discontinued), you can refer here
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/usb...usb-audio-support-for-android.704065/page-282
 
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Got my lightning to usb-c adapter and I can finally use this with my iPhone/iPad.
I've mostly been using the high gain (20-25 volume for iems, 50 for Fidelio X2) and without EQ. Should I be using the low gain instead?
 
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First impression: awesome SQ on my Andro Golds, no comparison to Qudelix 5k.
The EQ settings are really nice to play around.
Best for me so far is "sweet" for my warm&juicy sound or "dental" for a little more stage and dryness (going into direction of DX Max tuning) setting, NearField, Farfield, Headphone are also nice, if I want to really kick it, then "Rock" but mostly that's a bit much :wink:
Volume significantly louder on my MacBook Pro 2018 than on my Iphone11Pro.

Really great dongle, I don't regret buying it
It much depends on the power it received. Mine is louder on OnePlus 7T (USB-C) compare to Samsung Note 3 (USB-micro OTG). Still waiting for my Balanced 4.4 mm Hifiman HE400SE cable to arrive. Better lower the volume first before change the gain from LOW to HIGH because it's pretty loud.
 

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