[krmathis]

Awesome!

 

[ken36]

congrats, if you do it.

 

[Akathriel]

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Originally Posted by Dreadhead /img/forum/go_quote.gif It'd be nice if it was free but people here (USA) don't want to pay the taxes that that entails so we're stuck where we are.

I agree with everything else you said but thats BS. The price of higher level education has been growing faster than inflation for 20 years. It doesn't have to do with an increased cost to operate, it has to do with what the market will bear. More and more people want to go to college, so they've sucked up the ever increasing prices. There is finally a backlash now that the children of the baby boomers are attending college in full force.

 

[Dreadhead]

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Originally Posted by Akathriel /img/forum/go_quote.gif I agree with everything else you said but thats BS. The price of higher level education has been growing faster than inflation for 20 years. It doesn't have to do with an increased cost to operate, it has to do with what the market will bear. More and more people want to go to college, so they've sucked up the ever increasing prices. There is finally a backlash now that the children of the baby boomers are attending college in full force.

Hey I spew a lot of BS what's a little more?

Maybe it's my socialist (Canadian) roots but up there school is MUCH cheaper because the government pays so much of the bill and forces the cost down. If you want fancy ass stuff then find someone to pay for it because they will not. Up there there really aren't any BAD universities I went to one of the "best" for undergrad but to be honest any one of the others would have probably provided me with just as much knowledge because they all get approximately the same amount of support per enrolled student.

My experience as a professor was not that we were charging what the market would bear, we were charging what we needed to provide the fancy ass crap and extras that the "market" demanded: Yale gets a new "insert non teaching related building" so now everyone needs one to compete on the US News Rankings. Schools are not investing in better teaching (I'm not arguing for better prof salary, but chalk would be nice), they're investing in museums on campus, new buildings and other crap that doesn't matter. You're in school to learn not be on vacation.

I'm sorry but saying that schools are charging what the market will bear is crap. I believe they are charging what the market demands. It's like cars people want all the extras then they have to pay for them.

Each system has it's strengths and weaknesses but I've notice a definite trend that many of the new "discoveries" are happening outside the US and I think there is good reason. That said I did my graduate work in the US and I'll be forever giving U of Michigan money to keep it buying crap that it and its students don't need.

 

[loveheadphones]

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Originally Posted by Computerpro3 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I agree it's a joke. My father has a very large salary, but with me in college, my sister in next year, and my other sister in a year after that, he's going to be paying 120k a year just for us. He never got a degree, and he is in the process of going back and finishing so that's another 30k a year on top of that. My mother wants to get a masters and teach theology, so there's yet another 30k. Five people in college can eat up close to 200k a year if you don't get any financial aid, which we don't. It's BS that we are not eligible for financial aid - education costs can absolutely eat up a salary - even one that is very high (along with the fact that you only get 60% of your pay after taxes in this ridiculous bracket)! And housing costs... I live in a very bad area, and need to be near the practice rooms next year, so my only choice is an on campus apartment. Even through splitting the cost with a roommate, I will be paying $950 a month for 12 months (even though I only live there half a year!) just for my apartment next year. What a total ripoff.

sorry man - he chose to have three kids, apparently you are all going to private schools, and he's apparently paying for all of it. No sympathy here. You are in the best of all possible worlds.

 

[aamefford]

I dated a Stanford grad several years ago. She was from a lower middle income family at best. She found that with grants and scholarships, Stanford was actually cheaper than a state school for her. Granted, she was a very bright, very determined young lady (still is, I imagine). As to Stanford, I can only speak highly of the community of graduates I've met - vibrant, intelligent leaders almost to a person. It truly pains me to say this, as I'm a USC grad (my employer picked up the tab on that one, or I wouldn't be a USC grad). I was trained to dislike Stanford! I like 'em a little less after the manhandling they gave us in football this year, but a great school!

To the OP, if you can go, go!

 

[-=Germania=-]

Yeah - I have to say that it still ended up being cheaper than for me to go to U of Illinios for engineering. The engineering would have been $30k + a year and I couldn't have used as many scholarship there since some were specifically NU...

 

[majid]

Harvard's cutoff is more generous at $180K.

See these amusing articles by Phil Greenspun on the subject:

Philip Greenspun’s Weblog » Harvard takes another step closer to tuition-free

Tuition-free MIT

I went to the best engineering school in France, and the government paid me a stipend.

 

[Chrispy]

Dartmouth now extends up to $75,000.

 

[dbfreak]

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Originally Posted by goldenratiophi /img/forum/go_quote.gif Stanford drops tuition for some students This is so awesome. Pleeeeeaaaase MIT follow suit!

No, Oxford or even the University of Vienna.

 

[Xephyr]

I wish all school had something like that..if your family earns less than X amount, your tuition is waived...

Though I am curious, lets say you just got married and have a child. You go and apply for Stanford and get accepted...doesn't that mean you will get a free education since you just started a new family?

 

[JVOBIKER]

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Originally Posted by -=Germania=- /img/forum/go_quote.gif Seriously - Northwestern needs to do this too..... My family pulls in about 225k ( - travel costs to california onc a month) a year so I am not eligible and am paying through the nose. If I didn't start so early with scholarships so early I would be royally screwed. Ahh...universities fail to recognize that there are 5 children and two of which are currently in college! No seriously, my best friends come from middle - low income families and are paying at least 25k a year out of pocket. I know for a fact that none of them have families making over 100K a year and have crazy loans.

hey dude, what year are you? i just graduated in june

 

[saint.panda]

American universities are the best in the world, attract the brightest minds, conduct the most badass scientific projects, have an alumni culture unparalleled in the world, receive the largest amounts of industry funding, and sometimes run endowment funds that outperform the market. I don't understand why they are so expensive. Good move by Stanford.

 

[Iron_Dreamer]

I really wish this would have been the case in 2001. I had dreamed for years about going to Stanford, and it really was my goal all throughout school. I was really disappointed to get waitlisted. In the meantime I got several full scholarship offers from "lesser" schools. Then I became really excited to learn I was admitted to Stanford from the waitlist. And disappointed again to find a financial aid package consisting nearly entirely of loans (considering my 1-parent family made about $40k before taxes). Thus I became a USC grad with no debt at graduation rather than a Stanford grad with $150k+ debt. Not that I didn't appreciate what I ended up with, but it's hard not to wonder what might have been.