Looking for tube amp up to €1200 ($1500) shipped to Europe

[GoRedwings19]

Scale>The recommendations are very well represented here. But no-one has asked you yet what are your musical preferences or what kind of system you will be running it in. I am a big believer in synergy.

Also do take into considerations other factors. When any good arrive from any country outside the EU there will be some sort of Tax levy. This might push your budget up a bit.

Also if you need it serviced, repaired, upgraded, etc. then shipping cost will start to add up.

 

[elrod-tom]

Folks, let's not turn this into a big flamewar. I'll lock the thread if it goes there. Thanks...

 

[00940]

Btw, following my first posts : Meier-Audio doesn't offer the RKV anymore, due to a lack of demand for this model.

 

[gpalmer]

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Originally Posted by sacd lover And you base this comment on WHAT? You've never heard a Raptor in your life, have absolutely no idea what it might sound like, but you feel you can state that another amp you have heard sounds as good?

Nightfall, I'm not quite sure why you took off like a nitrogen fueled rocket on this one, but I must respectifully disagree with you on this. SACD Lover made a statement that was clearly conjecture. He didn't say that it was a fact that the amplifers were equal in sound, he said "...that I suspect sounds equally as good." How is this wrong? I think some of folks around here need to realize it's only an amplifier and flaming another member because he doesn't like your amp or likes another one better is not going to help the situation. Come on guys, these are just amplifers, we could get 100 people in to listen to 100 different amplifers, each one could pick a different favorite as the best and they'd all be right! Ultimately, all of this stuff is subjective and tolerance is a good thing. I can't speak for others, but another outbreak of amp wars will probably signal the end to my membership around here. Those episodes were just too ugly!

 

[scale]

What this discussion has become is something I am trying to understand. I have had more responses through the messaging system than I have in this discussion. It has become cloak and dagger with people asking me now not to discuss his messages. I have now read three or more references to amp wars here and in my messages. Several people have suggested the mpx 3 with one saying the wired version sounds better but still suggests I go with a circuit board version. Faced with two options I would rather choose the one that sounds best. Even with all of these suggestions for this amp none of them will answer a simple question about whether or not the pictures in the link above are actually pictures of the wired version of the mpx 3. I have received answers but not a yes and not a no. One answer says if I want a neater appearance I should go with the circuit board though he favours the sound of the wired but answers without a yes or no. One message tells me since I do not open my washer or tv and because of the high voltages I should not be concerned with the inside of the amp but answers without yes or no and also tells me that cary build quality is not good. Is this really such a daft question? Are the pictures in the link what I would be getting if I order a wired version of the mpx 3? Yes or no please. I am also writing singlepower directly and hope they are more helpful in answering this question.

lini do you suggest a particular dealer for the Brocksieper EarMax Pro?

 

[Glod]

If it is worth anything. My P2P SP MPX3 survived the Atlantic trip with flying colours. It has a rock-solid feel to it and me personally I couldn't care less what it looks like inside. I am only interested in quality of materials, assembly and that of the sound. In all catagories I give it top scores.

 

[Kurt]

I guess this thread was not a shortcut compared to the search function then, right?

 

[elrod-tom]

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Originally Posted by gpalmer SACD Lover made a statement that was clearly conjecture. He didn't say that it was a fact that the amplifers were equal in sound, he said "...that I suspect sounds equally as good." How is this wrong?

I don't want to speak for Nightfall, but unfortunately I think that there is some history at play here. All one need do is review the principals of much of what we call "amp wars" around here to see that most of the nastier exchanges occurred between former member/moderator Tuberoller and member SACD Lover. It got bad enough that accusations about bias and bogus statements were flying in all directions. It got so bad that Tuberoller decided that he'd had enough and left the community all together. That was IMHO a tremendous loss, and I know that I'm not alone in feeling that way. It does not surprise me that there might be some residual hard feelings from all of that. For the record, I think it's very bad for the community and I wish that it would stop.

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Originally Posted by gpalmer I think some of folks around here need to realize it's only an amplifier and flaming another member because he doesn't like your amp or likes another one better is not going to help the situation. Come on guys, these are just amplifers, we could get 100 people in to listen to 100 different amplifers, each one could pick a different favorite as the best and they'd all be right! Ultimately, all of this stuff is subjective and tolerance is a good thing.

I agree...but one thing that has become clear to me is the extent to which we may be suffering for the success of Head-Fi as a community. People are getting into business around this nutty hobby of ours, and the stakes are getting higher every day. They are high for the manufacturers, and for those who have invested in their gear (if the manufacturer goes away, the value goes south in a hurry). I have yet to understand why loyalty to one manufacturer or another so often seems to involve a blood oath for some.

I do understand that there is a lot going on under the radar that isn't apparent on the boards. We got a small taste of it here, and I've been informed by no fewer than three members that they have been contacted by several different members about why this amp is great and this amp specifically sucks. Unfortunately, they have thus far absolutely refused to come forward...given the ****storm that inevitably ensues immediately thereafter, who could blame them. I hope that they change their mind, as anyone who is using Head-Fi PM's or other resources to contact members is IMHO shilling. We have specific Terms of Use that deal with this, as we consider it to be bad for the community on several levels.

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Originally Posted by gpalmer I can't speak for others, but another outbreak of amp wars will probably signal the end to my membership around here. Those episodes were just too ugly!

I understand where you are coming from there, and would like to say again that it's bad for the community. It's especially bad when it results in the loss of a valued member.

I hope that those who were most involved in the last series of "amp wars" flame-outs will understand that they have a responsibility to the community to keep this sort of thing from happening again. Based on what I'm seeing in this thread, I'm not encouraged.

 

[recstar24]

Would it be possible to see pics of the insides of current p2p and PCB versions of MPX3? Those pics are probably older versions and would be curious to see how Mikhail has updated his wiring.

 

[scale]

I emailed Singlepower and asked for pricing and shipping information and also asked this question,

"And absolutely nobody on
head-fi will answer my question about this link
http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showt...8&page=2&pp=20 Are
the pictures in that link actually pictures of the inside of a wired
version of the mpx 3?"

I thought I would finally get a real yes or no answer but I did not. They answered my question about pricing and shipping but I was confused about what they were suggesting for wired or circuit board,

"Thank You for your inquiry about the MPX3.

The MPX3 is $899 in standard configuration. Shipping to Spain is $75. UK shipping is $70.

Yes, the wired version is more expensive depending on options. We currently recommend the wired version if you would
like the 99.99% pure silver wire upgrade. The sonic difference between the standard wired version (not silver) and
the PCB is non-existent. The PCB version is the finest Circuit Board made in the industry today. We use a .093"
thick board that is designed to function just like the standard wired version. The board is star grounded and uses
traces that are thicker than any other manufacturer uses. Simply put, if you desire the best sounding headphone
amplifier in the industry regardless of price, you should go for the MPX3 with some upgrades. The circuitry
is "beautified" in the wired version.

What do you prefer in terms of sonic qualities? What are your goals for the type of sound that you like? What
headphones do you like? We can tune these units to your preferences. We are the only manufacturer who builds custom
made amplifiers to order for our customers.

And for you question regarding the link that you included. No one will answer your question, this is because our
competition, listed in all of the recommendation in the thread that you started on Head-Fi, is very scared of us.
They do not know what to do, since we make far better amplifiers with better sound quality that all of them.

This thread that you mention was an attempt to hurt us by those associated with our competition. There is an
explanation about this amplifier that is in the pictures.

I would suggest to not pursue the questioning since it is of no benefit to anyone one board, and will simply cause a
war between the members. This is a game they are playing. You can simply look up the original PM that you received
about the thread, you will find that user no longer exists. It was a user who had no post count, so that PM was used
to influence your posting.

I would like to speak with you, so that I may better address any questions you have and get a feeling for the type of
sound that you desire. You may call us collect, or you can send us you telephone number and the best time to
call you. We can call you directly at our cost. We speak to most of our international customers via telephone.

Let us assist you in making the best choice for your listening pleasure."

I should choose wired only if I go with silver wire but go with the Circuit Board option if not? If the circuit is "beautified" in the wired version I wanted to know if the wired version was what I saw in the link that was sent to me which I asked directly above. The answer I received to that question was not yes or no,

Why will nobody not even the manufacturer answer that simple yes or no question?! What does this "amp war" that I have now received many messages about have to do with answering that very simple question? Even in my messages NOBODY asnwered that question. I feel like I'm in the middle of a big humourous skit in which you are all keeping the answer from me. At this time I would not feel comfortable buying this amp so it is off my list. Regardless I may take advantage of the collect call offer just for the sake of finding out if they will give me the answer yes or no.

I have made an offer on the Cary and hope he accepts it. To save time and money I will probably just use a power converter with it since it is US voltage. If not then I will probably consider some of the suggestions here. But I still would like a yes or no answer to that question.

 

[bln]

Why don't you ask the user that owned the amp.

 

[cpw]

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Originally Posted by scale And for you question regarding the link that you included. No one will answer your question, this is because our competition, listed in all of the recommendation in the thread that you started on Head-Fi, is very scared of us. They do not know what to do, since we make far better amplifiers with better sound quality that all of them. This thread that you mention was an attempt to hurt us by those associated with our competition. There is an explanation about this amplifier that is in the pictures. I would suggest to not pursue the questioning since it is of no benefit to anyone one board, and will simply cause a war between the members. This is a game they are playing. You can simply look up the original PM that you received about the thread, you will find that user no longer exists. It was a user who had no post count, so that PM was used to influence your posting.

 

[bln]

Also, it's generally poor etiquette to post private correspondence on a public forum unless permission has been granted.

 

[scale]

bln I could not tell from that long discussion which user owned the amp in the pictures. If you know who it was then please tell me and I will ask that user.

 

[bln]

I believe it belonged to the user lextek.