Looking for OPAMP!
Aug 8, 2007 at 11:12 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 8

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I am looking for a different opamp for my XM4 by Practical Devices. I am an absolute newbie to this but the opamp in this amp is mounted and can be changed easily. If anyone has a suggestion I would appreciate it. Otherwise looking for an AD8397. I'm not sure how to check compatibility but the rail splitter is the same as another amp that uses this opamp. I really need some help here!
Thanks for any replies, Tony

PS. Specs for the XM4 can be found by clicking the Practical Devices link in the sponsor column on the right. Other possibility suggestions are welcome!
 
Aug 9, 2007 at 1:10 AM Post #2 of 8
AD8397 may misbehave very badly in this amp, so I'd advise against it. The OPA2134 is a well-behaving FET input opamp, while the AD8397 is a fast, bipolar opamp which needs some care to work at all.

Some popular opamps you might try:
AD8066
OPA2228
LM4562
AD823

search here in the DIY forum for a host of information regarding different opamps
 
Aug 9, 2007 at 2:07 AM Post #3 of 8
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Originally Posted by balou /img/forum/go_quote.gif
AD8397 may misbehave very badly in this amp, so I'd advise against it. The OPA2134 is a well-behaving FET input opamp, while the AD8397 is a fast, bipolar opamp which needs some care to work at all.

Some popular opamps you might try:
AD8066
OPA2228
LM4562
AD823

search here in the DIY forum for a host of information regarding different opamps



Thanks for your reply. Do you know which version of the AD8066 should be used or would be best?
Part Numbers matching with AD8066
AD8066AR
AD8066AR-REEL7
AD8066ARM
AD8066ARZ

Thanks for your time and suggestions, Tony
 
Aug 9, 2007 at 2:26 AM Post #4 of 8
you should buy the version in the SOIC-8/SO-8 package. the -REEL version comes on a reel with several thousand opamps on it, dunno if you want that many
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. I can't remember if there are different grades of AD8066 - so just buy a SOIC-8 version which is available at your distributor
 
Aug 9, 2007 at 2:30 AM Post #5 of 8
Be careful with the AD8066. Even though it's nowhere as finicky as the AD8397, it is still a very fast, wideband opamp and could become unstable if used in a circuit that has inadequate rail decoupling or poor PCB layout. I don't know about the XM4, just thought I'd throw this caution out.
 
Aug 9, 2007 at 3:21 AM Post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by amb /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Be careful with the AD8066. Even though it's nowhere as finicky as the AD8397, it is still a very fast, wideband opamp and could become unstable if used in a circuit that has inadequate rail decoupling or poor PCB layout. I don't know about the XM4, just thought I'd throw this caution out.


Thanks for the help, The specs are here.
http://www.practicaldevices.com

and here
Practical Devices Corporation
XM4 Portable Headphone Amplifier
Product Details
XM4 Headphone Amplifier

* Uses 0.1% tolerance mil-spec resistors in the analog feedback circuit.
* Uses TLE2426 rail splitter, with noise reduction, to create a stable and low-noise analog ground.
* Uses OPA2134 ultra-low distortion (.00008%) low-noise high performance audio amplifier.
* Audio power supply bypassing uses both high-value Electrolytic and Tantalum capacitors to create an ultra-stable low-noise low-impedance power supply.
* Polished Aluminum volume knob.
* Proper dual-layer impedance-controlled Printed Circuit Board.
* Optional Lithium-Ion FastCharge® System is available.


Block Diagram of XM4 Headphone Amplifier

Audio Performance and Quality
The XM4 is constructed using only high-quality audio components:

Amplifier Stage:

* Burr-Brown OPA2134 ultra-low-distortion low-noise high-performance Audio Amplifier: The heart of the amplifier stage uses the well-respected Burr-Brown OPA2134 ultra-low-distortion (.00008%) low-noise high-performance audio amplifier.
* Mil-spec 0.1% metal film feedback resistors: The feedback stage around the amplifier uses Military-spec (MIL-R-10509) 0.1% metal film resistors, chosen for their very low noise and excellent high-frequency characteristics (Vishay-Dale RN55 series).


Audio Power Supply Stage:

* Texas Instruments TLE2426 Precision Virtual Ground: Powering the audio stage is the split-rail power supply, which is created by the Texas Instruments TLE2426 "Rail Splitter" Precision Virtual Ground. To further reduce noise and improve ripple rejection, the TLE2426's noise reduction pin is used
* Tantalum and high-value Electrolytic Capacitors: To further improve the stability of the power rails, a combination of both Tantalum and high-value Electrolytic capacitors are used. Electrolytic capacitors provide bulk decoupling of the power rails, but due to electrolytics' relatively-high ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance - a small unavoidable parasitic resistance in series with the capacitor), electrolytics do not have good high-frequency performance. Therefore, Tantalum capacitors, with their excellent ultra-low ESR performance, are used to fill in the spectrum where the electrolytics left off. The result is an exceptionally stable low-noise power supply for the audio stage.


PCB Layout:

* Professional Printed Circuit Board. The XM4 uses a proper professionally-built FR-4 impedance-controlled PCB. Care was taken during the design of the PCB to ensure audio signals have ground shielding and a low-impedance return path, which is not possible with any hand-wired board.


T
I am not being lazy , I just don't know anything!!
 
Aug 9, 2007 at 1:13 PM Post #7 of 8
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* Audio power supply bypassing uses both high-value Electrolytic and Tantalum capacitors to create an ultra-stable low-noise low-impedance power supply.


the electrolytics were to be expected as main psu caps, the tantalums seem to be the 1-2.2uF some opamp spec sheets seem to propose. From the overall description, I have enough confidence in practical devices that I'd say that the AD8066 will most likely work.

One more thing: the AD8066 comes in SOIC package, so you need an adaptor. You could buy a browndog one, or you could DIY one. See http://www.headphoneamp.co.kr/ftp/si.../Tip/SMD-3.jpg and http://www.headphoneamp.co.kr/ftp/si.../Tip/SMD-4.jpg
Then you could just order a 0.1uF ceramic cap together with the opamp, and directly mount it on the adapter. But I doubt you'll have any problems even without the bypass cap
 

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