[Scutey]

  OctavianH:
 
As Scutey said,  You will love them.  They are dead quiet.  Look what they made me do (Ha Ha Ha)

Lol. That was the first thing I did when I put them in, just couldn't help myself!.

 

[gulakpi]

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  The C3g fun club!   

 

[OctavianH]

I think I will have exactly the same adapters. They were shipped today from Hong Kong. But it will take some time to reach the end of the world where I am living. I plan to use these C3G with 6N6P-IR and check if I like them more than the Voskhods. I looked also on the 6H30P-DR but the price is astronomical. I do not think I will spend more than 100EUR on a powertube.
 
I see that you use some adapters also for the powertubes to be able to put 6SN7. It is such a big difference?

 

[Scutey]

http://www.head-fi.org/t/117677/the-reference-6sn7-threadQuote:

  I think I will have exactly the same adapters. They were shipped today from Hong Kong. But it will take some time to reach the end of the world where I am living. I plan to use these C3G with 6N6P-IR and check if I like them more than the Voskhods. I looked also on the 6H30P-DR but the price is astronomical. I do not think I will spend more than 100EUR on a powertube.
 
I see that you use some adapters also for the powertubes to be able to put 6SN7. It is such a big difference?

​You need the adapters as the 6SN7 is an octal base. The 6SN7 is a more refined sound than the 6n6 type, depends on the tube of course but they also tend to have slightly better detail, imaging, soundstage etc, also there is a far greater number of options with this type, from the very cheap to the insanely expensive. This is a link to the 6SN7 thread.

 

[OctavianH]

 
​You need the adapters as the 6SN7 is an octal base. The 6SN7 is a more refined sound than the 6n6 type, depends on the tube of course but they also tend to have slightly better detail, imaging, soundstage etc, also there is a far greater number of options with this type, from the very cheap to the insanely expensive. This is a link to the 6SN7 thread.

 
As far as I know, 6SN7 need more current to work properly. This does not create any overheating problems?
I guess I will to try this on MK2. Maybe on MK3 or MK4 the circuit handles these ones but I am not sure to try something like this on mine.
 
And regarding C3G, setting remains to EF95, but should I worry about something? Or just plug and play and no other problems.

 

[Scutey]

   
As far as I know, 6SN7 need more current to work properly. This does not create any overheating problems?
I guess I will to try this on MK2. Maybe on MK3 or MK4 the circuit handles these ones but I am not sure to try something like this on mine.
 
And regarding C3G, setting remains to EF95, but should I worry about something? Or just plug and play and no other problems.

​Yes with the C3G it is the EF95 setting, you shouldn't have any problems as it is plug and play with the adapters.
 
As for the 6SN7 I have the MK3 so can only say from my experiences with that but I had no problems with overheating, in fact the opposite was the case all the 6SN7's I've used in my LD run cooler than the 6N6 type.

 

[OctavianH]

 
​Yes with the C3G it is the EF95 setting, you shouldn't have any problems as it is plug and play with the adapters.
 
As for the 6SN7 I have the MK3 so can only say from my experiences with that but I had no problems with overheating, in fact the opposite was the case all the 6SN7's I've used in my LD run cooler than the 6N6 type.

 
So you advise to try also some 6SN7 power tubes for these C3G?
 
In that case I will need another adapters and I have to decide which power tubes to order (manufacturer, if 6SN7G or without G and so on).

 

[Scutey]

   
So you advise to try also some 6SN7 power tubes for these C3G?
 
In that case I will need another adapters and I have to decide which power tubes to order (manufacturer, if 6SN7G or without G and so on).

​The 6SN7 works very well with the C3G, of course we all have different set ups, tastes and the way we hear but the consensus on Head-Fi seems to be that the 6SN7/C3G is probably about as good as you can get with LD MK2/3/4, the adapters you need are the 6SN7 to ECC88, as for what type of 6SN7  to go for well you have a huge amount of types to choose from, the best thing I can suggest is to read that 6SN7 Reference thread, I found it to be invaluable.

 

[OctavianH]

 
​The 6SN7 works very well with the C3G, of course we all have different set ups, tastes and the way we hear but the consensus on Head-Fi seems to be that the 6SN7/C3G is probably about as good as you can get with LD MK2/3/4, the adapters you need are the 6SN7 to ECC88, as for what type of 6SN7  to go for well you have a huge amount of types to choose from, the best thing I can suggest is to read that 6SN7 Reference thread, I found it to be invaluable.

 
Yep, I think these adapters will fit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1piece-gold-plated-6SN7-B65-to-Mullard-ECC88-6922-6DJ8-Tube-converter-adapter-/201816047925?hash=item2efd2c8135:g:NA8AAOSwLVZVoK06
 
Am I right?

 

[dobigstuff]

   
Yep, I think these adapters will fit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1piece-gold-plated-6SN7-B65-to-Mullard-ECC88-6922-6DJ8-Tube-converter-adapter-/201816047925?hash=item2efd2c8135:g:NA8AAOSwLVZVoK06
 
Am I right?

OctavianH
 
These are the ones you need:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201330219735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

[dobigstuff]

OctavianH:
 
These are for the C3G's:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201330219735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

[Scutey]

  OctavianH
 
These are the ones you need:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201330219735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

  OctavianH:
 
These are for the C3G's:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201330219735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

​Apologies for not replying sooner, as dobigstuff says those are the correct adapters, from the same seller I bought mine.

 

[gibosi]

   
As far as I know, 6SN7 need more current to work properly. This does not create any overheating problems?
I guess I will to try this on MK2. Maybe on MK3 or MK4 the circuit handles these ones but I am not sure to try something like this on mine.
 

 
No, the 6SN7 requires less current than the stock Russian tubes, 0.6A versus 0.9A. And as a result, the 6SN7 cannot drive low-Z headphones as well as the Russian tubes.

 

[OctavianH]

I read some stuff on the 6SN7 reference thread and I am quite confused at the moment. Hopefully for the first phase the 6N6P-IR+C3G will make a difference. At least until I realize what Power tubes I need from this 6SN7 family. I look for fast/clean/colder sound to match with my T1 (similar to 6N6P-IR)

 

[Scutey]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222464803258?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITQuote:

  I read some stuff on the 6SN7 reference thread and I am quite confused at the moment. Hopefully for the first phase the 6N6P-IR+C3G will make a difference. At least until I realize what Power tubes I need from this 6SN7 family. I look for fast/clean/colder sound to match with my T1 (similar to 6N6P-IR)

​I've found the 6N6P-IR and the C3G to be a good match, the clarity and detail with this combo is very good.
 
The first time I read the 6SN7reference thread it was enough to make my head spin!, one I'd read it a couple times it started to make sense.
 
One that might be right for you going on what you've said is the Philips JAN6SN7WGTA, it's a rebadged Sylvania, from the mid eighties, it's a coolish, quite fast tube, with good detail, sonically similar to the 6N6P-IR, the only thing there's not much info on them, anywhere, there is some for sale on ebay at the mo, this is the link if you are interested.