extrabigmehdi
Headphoneus Supremus
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Well,
there was the three headphone (beats pro, beats studio, beats solo) demoed in some virgin (mega ?) store . There was a kind of stand, with a built in player , and it was for me the opportunity to try them for the first time ( in Morocco , there's not too much store of that kind).
1) I tried first the beats solo.
There was was two pair of beats solo demoed :
- one looked intact, but the right driver was silent
- so I tried the other pair, that looked broken & scotched : well at least there's the sound in both side.
This gives at least an idea of built quality: the beats solo are easy to break.
Now regarding the sound :
the demo was enjoyable, too enjoyable compared to what everyone was saying.
However it was obvious too, that a nice amount of dsp was applied to give the best impression.
How could these tiny cups deliver such big soundstage, without a minimum of sound processing to trick the listener ?
Probably some heavily tweaked stereo reverb , or effects like srs labs wow.
The treble presented zero texture , and for the kind of music played it was pleasant.
I think some low pass filter was applied, because otherwise it was "too clean", and I'd say the highs "were washed".
Probably those who made the demo thought : "we don't want you to hear the top treble of the beats solo" ( unless it's naturally recessed).
Regarding the bass, I didn't notice any impact, but it wasn't bloated. I didn't notice any sub bass.
There was a pleasing warm signature , except that when I trying the different genre presented (rock, jazz, hip hop, rnb ) with different buttons,
I didn't even realize I was listening to different stuff. And the snippet of music presented were a bit short (unless there was a problem with the player of the stand).
2) then I tried the beats studio;
Built quality is frail, but obviously they resisted more than the beat solo .
Regarding sound, there wasn't too striking different with the beats solo (at least for the demo).
The "warm", pleasant, presentation of solo is gone (from what I remind).
I can hear some treble texture, but the treble details presented are not very interesting, for that kind of music.
I guess some low pass was still applied.
A bit of some "bass echo", rather than impact I'd say.
Almost same soundstage, how could it be possible without a decent amount of dsp trickery ?
I didn't pay attention to the noise cancellation stuff, I believe it was off.
3) then I tried the beats pro:
I liked the built quality, and the comfort was ok for the period of time I tried them.
Probably I need to try them more than 5 min to get an idea of how they could be uncomfortable,
but they gave a positive impression. I think the headphone provided the best isolation, because I couldn't hear what the guy near me, was saying.
Sound :
haha, same soundstage.
More treble texture than with beats studio.
The treble details presented were completely uninteresting for the kind of music played, but I can guess that with a proper demo, the beats studio would be able of more refinement.
They just contributed here to give the feeling of a less clean sound.
With that demo, I was more in the mood : "give me back that low pass filter, I'd liked that over cleaned sound from the beats solo"
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I think there was some bass impact, although I didn't listen enough.
However, there was more delay in the "bass echo".
I think it's how the monster brand provide the illusion of more bass :
it's bouncing on the cup, and with deeper cup and bigger delay, you have the illusion of mooore bass.
Unless it's dsp again ?
So technically I guess it was inaccurate, but I'd lie if I say it was not enjoyable.
I guess you need long listening sessions to realize the artificiality of the bass.
So overall I got a pleasant impression of monster headphones, although I guess I would need to try them outside the store , to get a more accurate idea.
It was as if, all of them , were better than my hd25 II 1; but the flaws were masked with different kind of dsp trickery.
It only provide proof, that with the right amount of "mastering/dsp", and selected music snippets, any headphone can sound good.
The built quality of the beats pro was convincing, I'd take them if they weren't too expensive, and over-hyped (after conversion to $, they cost roughly 560$ , in that Moroccan store).
there was the three headphone (beats pro, beats studio, beats solo) demoed in some virgin (mega ?) store . There was a kind of stand, with a built in player , and it was for me the opportunity to try them for the first time ( in Morocco , there's not too much store of that kind).
1) I tried first the beats solo.
There was was two pair of beats solo demoed :
- one looked intact, but the right driver was silent
- so I tried the other pair, that looked broken & scotched : well at least there's the sound in both side.
This gives at least an idea of built quality: the beats solo are easy to break.
Now regarding the sound :
the demo was enjoyable, too enjoyable compared to what everyone was saying.
However it was obvious too, that a nice amount of dsp was applied to give the best impression.
How could these tiny cups deliver such big soundstage, without a minimum of sound processing to trick the listener ?
Probably some heavily tweaked stereo reverb , or effects like srs labs wow.
The treble presented zero texture , and for the kind of music played it was pleasant.
I think some low pass filter was applied, because otherwise it was "too clean", and I'd say the highs "were washed".
Probably those who made the demo thought : "we don't want you to hear the top treble of the beats solo" ( unless it's naturally recessed).
Regarding the bass, I didn't notice any impact, but it wasn't bloated. I didn't notice any sub bass.
There was a pleasing warm signature , except that when I trying the different genre presented (rock, jazz, hip hop, rnb ) with different buttons,
I didn't even realize I was listening to different stuff. And the snippet of music presented were a bit short (unless there was a problem with the player of the stand).
2) then I tried the beats studio;
Built quality is frail, but obviously they resisted more than the beat solo .
Regarding sound, there wasn't too striking different with the beats solo (at least for the demo).
The "warm", pleasant, presentation of solo is gone (from what I remind).
I can hear some treble texture, but the treble details presented are not very interesting, for that kind of music.
I guess some low pass was still applied.
A bit of some "bass echo", rather than impact I'd say.
Almost same soundstage, how could it be possible without a decent amount of dsp trickery ?
I didn't pay attention to the noise cancellation stuff, I believe it was off.
3) then I tried the beats pro:
I liked the built quality, and the comfort was ok for the period of time I tried them.
Probably I need to try them more than 5 min to get an idea of how they could be uncomfortable,
but they gave a positive impression. I think the headphone provided the best isolation, because I couldn't hear what the guy near me, was saying.
Sound :
haha, same soundstage.
More treble texture than with beats studio.
The treble details presented were completely uninteresting for the kind of music played, but I can guess that with a proper demo, the beats studio would be able of more refinement.
They just contributed here to give the feeling of a less clean sound.
With that demo, I was more in the mood : "give me back that low pass filter, I'd liked that over cleaned sound from the beats solo"
I think there was some bass impact, although I didn't listen enough.
However, there was more delay in the "bass echo".
I think it's how the monster brand provide the illusion of more bass :
it's bouncing on the cup, and with deeper cup and bigger delay, you have the illusion of mooore bass.
Unless it's dsp again ?
So technically I guess it was inaccurate, but I'd lie if I say it was not enjoyable.
I guess you need long listening sessions to realize the artificiality of the bass.
So overall I got a pleasant impression of monster headphones, although I guess I would need to try them outside the store , to get a more accurate idea.
It was as if, all of them , were better than my hd25 II 1; but the flaws were masked with different kind of dsp trickery.
It only provide proof, that with the right amount of "mastering/dsp", and selected music snippets, any headphone can sound good.
The built quality of the beats pro was convincing, I'd take them if they weren't too expensive, and over-hyped (after conversion to $, they cost roughly 560$ , in that Moroccan store).
