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List: Portable Players That Support Gapless Playback

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by heatfan12, Mar 13, 2011.
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  1. HeatFan12 Contributor
    Was recently in the the market for a new DAP/PMP and had to read up quite a bit to see which players support gapless playback.  It's something a lot of manufacturers fail to mention whether their players do or not.  So, I decided with the help of this community to compose a list that supports this wonderful feature.
     
    Just in case- What is gapless playback?
     
    Gapless playback is the complete album playing as it should be, without any interruptions or "gaps" between the songs.  Examples-  Live albums, Mixed Electronic albums, Concept Albums etc....A good old school example is Pink Floyd's DSOTM.
     
    I will comprise a list by manufacturers.  No manufacturer is too big or too small for this list.  A lot of DAPs go on the used for sale market and it could come in handy for future purchases.
     
    In reference to Rockbox.  I believe many Rockbox'ed players support gapless, but not all.  My Archos 15gb Recorder does not.  If you have a player that does support it, please advise if the player is RB'ed or not.
     
    With all the "Generations" and Firmware upgrades with various players, post the model you own and can confirm.  Example- Ipod Nano 15th Generation supports gapless....For other players if the player did not support it until a firmware upgrade, post that as well. If you have a Rockboxed player and can remember before the RB update if it was supported, post that as well.
     
    Exception/Disclaimer-  If you rip an entire CD as "one" large file, that does not constitute gapless playback.  ALL players should play gapless as "1" large file..I hope...Split track gapless support only.
     
    I will update this list often...I will make 2 lists (Supports & Does Not Support) and move them accordingly if in the future an upgrade grants the support.  I will post the players I have atm that support it. 
     
    Post your players!!!
     
    Thanks to all...[​IMG]
     
     
     
    SUPPORTS GAPLESS PLAYBACK
     
     
    Apple
     
    iPod Video 5.5G (Rockbox)
    iPod Touch 2G
    iPod Nano 1G (1st Generation) (Rockbox)
     
     
    Cowon
     
    J3
    S9
    i9
     
     
    Nationite
     
     
     
    Archos
     
     
     
    Sony
     
     
     
    Sansa
     
    Clip+ (Rockbox)
    Fuze (Rockbox)
    Fuze+ (Latest Firmware)(03-20-11)
     
     
    Microsoft
     
     
     
     
     
    DOES NOT SUPPORT GAPLESS PLAYBACK
     
     
    Archos
     
    Jukebox Recorder 15gb
     
     
  2. 4DThinker
    Cowon J3 and S9 and i9 I believe.
     
  3. rawrster
    I have the Cowon J3 and I get gapless playback
     
  4. HeatFan12 Contributor
    Updated with a little Cowon action.    Thanks guys
     
  5. azncookiecutter
    All newer iPods (from 5.5 classic onwards) and iPhones support gapless, to the best of my knowledge.
     
    EDIT: Rockbox not required too, that is. A fully stock iPod and iPhone are capable of gapless.
     
  6. 12345142
    Shouldn't a Sansa Fuze with Rockbox also support gapless?
     
  7. HeatFan12 Contributor
    Thanks az & 123...
     
    However, my iPod journey ended with the 5.5G video.  Then after a while I purchased a Touch 2G.  I have no idea what came in between those two.  In reference to iPhones, I believe we are up to 4G?
     
    123..., I don't have a Fuze so I can't confirm that.
     
  8. Achmedisdead


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    With Rockbox, yes, but not stock. And I can verify Clip+ (with Rockbox) and Cowon i9 as gapless.
     
  9. 4DThinker
    The Fuze+ with the latest firmware does gapless.  Just verified as I'm finalizing my review of it. 
     
    4D
     
  10. HeatFan12 Contributor
  11. mp3
    All players that can run Rockbox are gapless.
     

    Stable ports

    1. Apple: iPod 1g through 5.5g, iPod Mini, iPod Nano 1g and iPod Nano 2g
    2. Archos: Jukebox 5000, 6000, Studio, Recorder, FM Recorder, Recorder V2and Ondio
    3. Cowon: iAudio X5, X5V, X5L, M5, M5L, M3 and M3L
    4. iriver: iHP100 series, H100 series, H300 series and H10 series
    5. Olympus: M:Robe 100
    6. Packard Bell: Vibe 500
    7. SanDisk: Sansa c200 (not v2), e200 and e200R series, Fuze, Clip and Clip+
    8. Toshiba: Gigabeat X and F series

    Unstable ports

    1. Cowon: D2
    2. MPIO: HD200, HD300
    3. Olympus: M:Robe 500
    4. Philips: GoGear SA9200, GoGear HDD16x0 and HDD63x0
    5. Samsung: YH-820, YH-920 and YH-925
    6. SanDisk: Sansa c200v2 series
    7. Toshiba: Gigabeat S

    Unusable ports

    1. Cowon iAudio 7, Creative ZVM, Logik Dax, Meizu M6 and M3
      Onda VX747, VX767 and VX777,
      Tatung Elio TPJ1022, Sandisk Sansa m200, c100,
      Google Android, Apple iPod Classic
     
     
    Edit: Android is listed as unusable, I would say it is unstable
     
  12. HeatFan12 Contributor
    Thanks mp3.  Great post.....My Archos jukebox recorder (15g) that I purchased in 2002 and R'boxed a while later, does not support it though.  Unless they updated the build.
     
    Thanks
     
     
    Do you know if the iPod Classic 7G supports gapless w/ Apple firmware?  I believe an unstable build is already out for RB.
     
  13. Achmedisdead


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    I believe as long as iTunes is what loaded the files onto it, it would be gapless. I can't say with 100% certainty though.
     
     
  14. 4DThinker
    The Cowon D3 with Rockbox is gapless, except for the rare slight blip while playing MP3s from a concert album.
     
  15. ehead
    Questions about gapless... from what I understand:
     
    Some players can't do it at all.
    Some players can play gapless if your media files were ripped in such a way as to support this. Example, ripped w/ LAME w/ the gapless settings.
    Some players can play gapless regardless of how your media files were originally ripped.
     
    Now, I know iPod's fall into that last category, and they use some magic gapless algorithm and then tag the files. I've found the iPod to be pretty amazing in this regard. Sadly, other players w/ much better sound quality don't seem to be able to pull off this trick as well as the iPod.
     
    My question....
     
    Is there some software you can pass over your mp3 files that adds a tag or something enabling other players to do gapless just as good as the iPod?
     
    Or, for that matter, are their players out there that can do gapless on all media files, like the iPod can?
     
    I've heard Cowon's have their own gapless "magic" they can do. Presummably they simply read ahead a little bit and drop the silence. Can anyone verify this? In particular I'm looking at the Cowon Z2.
     
    I mean... I know my desktop player (J. River) can do it... seems like a portable should be able to do it.
     
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