[jdog]

OK, I guess the mystery surrounding the already mysterious Geek Wave continues to thicken!

 

[jsiegel14072]

When it's appropriate.

MikeyFresh said:
top secret advancements only at this juncture.

Correct.

The only thing that is not secret is how far he is falling behind with each delay. This month's introductions Fiio M15 and A&K SR25

 

[Zojokkeli]

The only thing that is not secret is how far he is falling behind with each delay. This month's introductions Fiio M15 and A&K SR25

Psssh, I’m confident we’re getting spanking hot 2014 hardware with dubious software.

 

[stuck limo]

It's advancing in a positive way. I just got 2 main points yesterday. Nothing to share publicly yet though.

Add a third onto that. Nothing to share publicly yet. Will share when ready.

 

[Clemmaster]

So... see you in a couple years?

 

[Zojokkeli]

So... see you in a couple years?

With new CAD drawings and some remaining issues with bluetooth implementation?

 

[Currawong]

Given you can get a working OS from Hiby, and most of the electronics are generic (***! You can build your own smart phone in Shenzen!) if you have the capital, there's no reason at all that something can't get made if you can get your crap together and work hard. But they don't have any capital and obviously nobody will touch them with a 10-foot barge pole.

What has probably been going on:

The old, chunky design was unreasonable to go ahead with, and obviously would be completely unsellable, so he re-designed, paying or, or partnering with some other company or people.
There isn't any money to go beyond making beta boards and cases, so the new company and/or coders/whomever part ways, in the middle of an un-finished product.
Larry finds another company/coders/whomever to work with, so they make a new design, but there isn't any money to go beyond, a new set of beta boards, and/or they find out Larry's history and bail.
Rinse and repeat, adding in having to update the design every year with new parts as old parts become End-Of-Line. Use that as progress announcements to make people think things are happening, when actual production cannot, ever, as they can't build them at scale, because they are broke. Nor can they persuade anyone to partner with them or sponsor them, as, just as has happened elsewhere, once the word gets around China, nobody will have anything to do with him.

So, whatever "update" will come will be more "We've made progress on [rotate the wheel and throw a dart to see whether it lands on an announcement about boards, Bluetooth, case, operating system]". There will NEVER be an announcement about actual production in quantity -- and I'm not talking about being in talks with anyone, but ACTUAL production.

We'll probably see NASA put people on Mars before we see the Wave. Anyone who has friends in NASA will get that joke.

 

[stuck limo]

Nor can they persuade anyone to partner with them or sponsor them, as, just as has happened elsewhere, once the word gets around China, nobody will have anything to do with him.

You seem really plugged in. Can you give us some specifics on who decided to not partner with or sponsor (specifically) LH Labs (crowdfunding division), and where? What timeframes or specific dates do you have? Can you point to anyone in China who has specifically stated (to you) (or us) that they won't do business with LH Labs, and under what circumstances?

Can you point to any specific LH Labs approaches to businesses in regards to the Wave or other crowdfunding campaigns where LH Labs was turned down?

Given the nature of crowdfunding, the eventual/current path of LH Labs leaving that arena, the "wall" as we've repeatedly stated (IE, crowdfunding at this point is a dead business model for us, there is no money to be made from it), I'm a little unclear why it would be a topic on anyone's mind (including ours) that people wouldn't partner with a dead business model (and an exiting business).

Also, why would LH Labs even ask that in the first place to people? What is there to partner FOR, at this point? (answer: nothing) Where are the partners going to get money from after they invest? The business is closing after all campaigns are done. What's there to keep alive or wring juice out of?

So, yes, you're right: no one would "partner" with LH Labs, however, not for the reasons you're espousing. However, people would take money in exchange for production services. Which they have and are. (not "partnering")

Just so you're aware, Light Harmonic DOES have partners in China/Asia, so I'm unsure where you're getting this idea that Larry is shunned or will be in China.

 

[jsiegel14072]

...

Just so you're aware, Light Harmonic DOES have partners in China/Asia, so I'm unsure where you're getting this idea that Larry is shunned or will be in China.

So finish one campaign then, as far as i can see nothing has been completed since Geek Out V2..

examples:
9/29/17 The current status of Pulse Power Amp:
ANSWER: We finished the design on M200 Mono blocks. And currently the PCBF is done too. We are waiting for two transistors to arrive on first week of Oct. Then we will start the PCB assembly. The next step would be the new chassis integration test.

Source 12/1/18
We have received the 20 Toradex SOM boards for the Source SE to the United States office. Over the next few weeks the office will work on building the Source SE units and the next 10 will ship out. We have another shipment of 30 motherboards on order and will be updating you when those arrive to the office.

Pulse Update Status - 11/23/2017
Modified on: Thu, 23 Nov, 2017 at 12:41 AM
1. We have the factory who is building Da Vinci boards working on the Pulse boards. The same quality Da Vinci owners are used to will come directly installed in your Pulse.
2. The orders have been sent to the factory. We are just waiting on the production schedule to open up. We have the components all gathered and ready to go at the factory. They will begin production right after after the Da Vinci boards are done (which are next in line).
3. Literally everything else involved in the chassis/packaging/shipping/etc. is ready to go. There are no expected delays. We just need the boards.

Vi Jan 23, 2017 • 11:59PM
over 3 years ago
Hello All Vi Backers,
We are happy to inform you that all outstanding orders have been entered into our order management system and the order for production has been placed. Please go into your account and verify/update your shipping information and let us know if you have any corrections or concerns on the imputed order. Thank you again for your patience and we will keep you updated bi-weekly on the status of production

So when will any Campaign be finished?

 

[VandyMan]

You seem really plugged in. Can you give us some specifics on who decided to not partner with or sponsor (specifically) LH Labs (crowdfunding division), and where? What timeframes or specific dates do you have? Can you point to anyone in China who has specifically stated (to you) (or us) that they won't do business with LH Labs, and under what circumstances?

Can you point to any specific LH Labs approaches to businesses in regards to the Wave or other crowdfunding campaigns where LH Labs was turned down?

Given the nature of crowdfunding, the eventual/current path of LH Labs leaving that arena, the "wall" as we've repeatedly stated (IE, crowdfunding at this point is a dead business model for us, there is no money to be made from it), I'm a little unclear why it would be a topic on anyone's mind (including ours) that people wouldn't partner with a dead business model (and an exiting business).

Also, why would LH Labs even ask that in the first place to people? What is there to partner FOR, at this point? (answer: nothing) Where are the partners going to get money from after they invest? The business is closing after all campaigns are done. What's there to keep alive or wring juice out of?

So, yes, you're right: no one would "partner" with LH Labs, however, not for the reasons you're espousing. However, people would take money in exchange for production services. Which they have and are. (not "partnering")

Just so you're aware, Light Harmonic DOES have partners in China/Asia, so I'm unsure where you're getting this idea that Larry is shunned or will be in China.

Like most criminal enterprises, you behave arrogantly, attack people who question you, and deny wrong doing until you are blue in the face. And I include you as part of the criminal enterprise, because after years of carrying water for Larry/LH Labs, you can no longer claim to be separate or unaware of the ongoing fraud.

 

[Currawong]

You seem really plugged in. Can you give us some specifics on who decided to not partner with or sponsor (specifically) LH Labs (crowdfunding division), and where? What timeframes or specific dates do you have? Can you point to anyone in China who has specifically stated (to you) (or us) that they won't do business with LH Labs, and under what circumstances?

Can you point to any specific LH Labs approaches to businesses in regards to the Wave or other crowdfunding campaigns where LH Labs was turned down?

Given the nature of crowdfunding, the eventual/current path of LH Labs leaving that arena, the "wall" as we've repeatedly stated (IE, crowdfunding at this point is a dead business model for us, there is no money to be made from it), I'm a little unclear why it would be a topic on anyone's mind (including ours) that people wouldn't partner with a dead business model (and an exiting business).

Also, why would LH Labs even ask that in the first place to people? What is there to partner FOR, at this point? (answer: nothing) Where are the partners going to get money from after they invest? The business is closing after all campaigns are done. What's there to keep alive or wring juice out of?

So, yes, you're right: no one would "partner" with LH Labs, however, not for the reasons you're espousing. However, people would take money in exchange for production services. Which they have and are. (not "partnering")

Just so you're aware, Light Harmonic DOES have partners in China/Asia, so I'm unsure where you're getting this idea that Larry is shunned or will be in China.

You are avoiding the point. I never mentioned crowdfunding. You also missed the word "probably" in my post. Larry (not LHLabs, which no longer exists as a business* from what I could find -- prove me wrong) cannot pay for MANUFACTURE because if there is any money left in the business, then it is going into the $70k for office rent. The only thing he can afford is making beta boards to try and show that he is doing something about making the Wave, when clearly there is NO money to actually make it in quantity.

Any update OTHER than showing actual, mass production, is a smokescreen.

No mass production = No product!

*The only entries for "LH Labs" in the CA business registry. The bottom one doesn't appear to be related. Note the status.

 

[jdog]

@stuck limo; it has now been 6 yrs since many of us bought into Larry's dream for the "no compromise DAP" (AKA Geek Wave) and not one of us has received one. In fact, not one of us has even seen a real picture of a completed Geek Wave. Don't you all think you can at least humor us with your current 3 secrets surrounding the mythical Wave? Come on, now, we have given Larry alot of money, at least he can provide us with a little entertainment to help ease our COVID-19 blues...

 

[jdog]

Come on Jarek or stuck limo, whatever you want us to call you... Why no recent updates? You've left us hanging! Are you waiting for Larry's 4th big secret? Time to give an update or two... Larry certainly owes us that much!

 

[jsiegel14072]

A Chance to catch up!
Fiio and A&K haven't introduced any new products this monh

 

[jdog]

Hey, stuck limo, we haven't heard from you in over 6 weeks... starting to worry about your health... why don't you chime in here and let us know that at least you're still walking the planet....