shotgunshane
Headphoneus Supremus
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By the way, are they still shipping Vibratos? I paid the difference and haven't received any notification.
OK, just got the iem-x
My first, out of the box impression...not bad sounding, clear, open, a bit tizzy on top, not that strong on bottom.
Will need to burn in.
I have a question, though...they're supposed to be balanced. Does that require purchasing a different cable? The one that comes doesn't connect to my adaptor (which I have to use for a balanced cable terminated for the AK style balanced out, allows me to use it for Pono), so I suspect it isn't a balanced cable. That stinks, I have to say, when I went for balanced headphones, I thought they'd be able to use balanced, guess I assumed too much.
Does that mean they also work with single ended output?
I have received my IEM-X, but don't have a good feeling about it. Given that LH Labs' previous IEM "mishap" (i.e. Verb being rebranded Xuma), when I look at the IEM-X, I can't help but feel that it might be another rebranded product (or OEM product) from China / Alibaba. The casing looks strikingly similar to a number of cheap IEMs from China I have seen.
And then I come across the following item on Alibaba:
https://xrxdz.en.alibaba.com/product/60398450714-803292448/2016_new_Titanium_driver_audiophile_metal_in_ear_monitors_IEMs_with_balanced_TRRS_Jack.html
So, let’s count the similarities, shall we?
Balanced 3.5mm TRRS jack? Check.
Titanium dynamic driver? Check.
16 ohms impedance? Check.
Comes with 3 pairs of very similar-looking silicone tips? Check.
Very similar-looking earphone casing and 1.2m cable? Check.
While IEM-X may look quite different from the OEM product on the surface, it should be noted that the supplier can also print the earphones in any colours, print customized logo on the earphones and design custom packages.
Of course, I cannot provide concrete proof that the IEM-X is manufactured by this OEM company (no one could - unless the OEM company or LH Labs admits this). Assuming that they did purchase these IEMs from the OEM company, then after receiving the OEM earphones, LH Labs might have done something more to the earphones (Hopefully further tuning? Testing a few pairs of them? Printing shipping labels and actually shipping them?). But given LH Labs' past history in making IEMs, seeing the above Alibaba listing makes me feel very uncomfortable. Call me skeptical, but when I look at the IEM-X, it reminds me about the IEMs from China. Think about this – backers were charged $69 for the IEM-X, with an additional $15 for shipping; but these can be ordered from the OEM company directly at less than $10 per item. A very profitable business, isn’t it?
There is also another interesting observation – remember the Vibrato that has a similar casing with IEM-X? Why does Vibrato come with a mic while IEM-X doesn’t? I don’t know – perhaps because the same OEM company offers balanced 3.5 TRRS earphones without mics (naturally) and unbalanced 3.5 TRRS earphones with mics?
https://xrxdz.en.alibaba.com/product/60368676092-803292448/Deep_bass_Metal_Material_Shell_Earphone_With_3_5MM_Gold_Plated_Plug.html
And for the sound, I may be in the minority - I am not very impressed with it. No doubt it is better than the Verb, but let's just say, Verb did not really set a standard in terms of sound. It does not sound very clear to me, and the vocal is too forward - I cannot hear the instruments and details clearly. To me, the $5 VE Monk Plus sounds better than the IEM-X - but let's not forget that IEM-X is a $129 IEM (IEM-X is better than Monk Plus in terms of isolation (naturally, because this is in-ear vs earbuds), offers more bass, and that's all).
This makes me worry more about the Geek Wave - will it be another OEM product? How many corners will LH Labs have to cut in order to deliver the product - if it could be delivered? Understandably, they have mouths to feed - and the longer the delay, the more likely "sacrifices" of the end-product have to be made. Honestly, I have lost faith in this company.
... LH Labs offered the unbalanced Vibrato with mic (instead of without mic) because for the casing of Vibrato, the OEM company only offered (or usually produced) it with mic (at least this is the impression I get when I briefly glanced through their product page - but I can't be 100% sure, as there were 47 pages of products and I only went through the pages quickly). Therefore, instead of releasing both IEM-X and Vibrato without mic, LH Labs had no choice but to release the Vibrato with mic (or offered the mic for convenience's sake when making the order from the same OEM company).
Once again, I must reiterate that this was purely speculation. I certainly hope LH Labs would come up to clarify and tell us what they did to manufacture the IEM-X / Vibrato. But based on past history of LH Labs on making IEMs (which is a very short history, with very negative experience), the Alibaba website and the similarities observed, I wouldn't be surprised if the Vibrato and IEM-X were indeed both manufactured by the same OEM company. In other words, the IEM-X / Vibrato might be nothing more than rebranded IEMs of an existing product in China.
What's more, by offering Verb owners a Vibrato for "free" as compensation (for the "shipping cost" of $26), LH Labs was more than able to break even - taking into account of the $15 for shipping that they charged for shipping IEM-X / Verb, and an additional $5 per item for ordering the earphones from the OEM company in bulk, they could still earn at least $6 from each "compensation". Sorry for making all this sound like a conspiracy theory, but I personally just feel very disappointed in LH Labs, after all these years.
I paid $26 for the Vibratos "gift" to make up for the awful Verb. I immediately regretted paying for another mistake so my plan was to sell the unit upon receipt. Several months have passed and those of us who had the misfortune of buying the Verb and were offered the "gift" of the Vibratos have not received the Vibratos. Meanwhile, you can buy the Vibrato on Amazon without delay. Apparently, this "gift" has turned into another punishment for supporters of the company.
Three weeks ago, I requested a refund of the shipping fees for the "gift". This amounts to $26 USD or $34 CAD. Gina informed me that LH Labs is sorry for the delay and that they will comply with my request for refund within 5 business days. 3 weeks later and several requests for updates later (after 10 days had passed) and I am getting completely ignored by LH Labs. I will never buy anything from this company again! Lesson learned.