[ColonelBucket8]

Symphonic djenty black metal
 
https://ovidswithering.bandcamp.com/album/scryers-of-the-ibis
 

 

[ColonelBucket8]

 

[Ike1985]

  Thanks for this, they have a groovy sound. Home grown too!

 
They have the heaviest doom sound I've ever heard and I hear tons of doom.  It's like a combination of a cheesy horror film + redneck culture + degeneracy + drugs + massively crushing foreboding sound.  Hochelaga is their best album to date. For a single track check out:
 
https://dopethrone.bandcamp.com/album/hochelaga-3

 

[bavinck]

They have the heaviest doom sound I've ever heard and I hear tons of doom.  It's like a combination of a cheesy horror film + redneck culture + degeneracy + drugs + massively crushing foreboding sound.  Hochelaga is their best album to date. For a single track check out:

https://dopethrone.bandcamp.com/album/hochelaga-3

I got all their albums, they are all pretty good. Really neat sound.

 

[Ike1985]

I got all their albums, they are all pretty good. Really neat sound.

 
This is a band where getting the FLAC files really makes a big difference.  Many of the bands on Bandcamp unfortunately upsample to FLAC.  Something about the Dopethrone (a reference to the great Electric Wizard Album Dopethrone BTW) heavy dense fuzzy and gritty sound makes it really open up and become more dynamic in the FLAC vs MP3, especially if you're listening bitperfect via an app like UAPP or some other bitperfect setup. 

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Modern society could function just fine without IP law, inventors will always have the first to market advantage. In fact technology, life and the standard of living would advance way faster than it is doing so now without being held back by patents and ip laws for decades.  Think how many inventions and advanced technologies are suppressed and how slow markets progress because people aren't able to riff off others' ideas.  In fact I attribute the abysmal state of mainstream music and most music in general to IP LAW, generations ago people could freely borrow from others works, riff off them and create something new-not so anymore.  You can't own a thought or an idea, that's absurd. 
 
Speaking of raw materials, imagine I have an atomic 3d printer than can essentially print anything.  Would it be immoral for me to print a copy of a CD I didn't already own? How about If I took my super advanced atomic scanner, scanned my coffee mug and printed an exact replica of that, would that be immoral? You have no right to tell others what they may do with raw materials or resources or tell them which thoughts they may think, this is exactly what IP law is.  Again, If someone buys a CD they have every right to share it with others if they want to since it's THEIR property.  The musician doesn't still OWN the CD, once someone buys the CD it's THEIR property from that point on and they can do with it what they wish.  People recognize no limits on what someone may do with owned property but suddenly when it comes to a CD. 
 
The idea of creating music to profit is fine but I can gurantee music made for the love of music itself will exceed music made with the intent of making money everytime.  I question how many of the musicians you think you're fighting for actually make music to make money and how many do it because they love it.
 
I never said resources don't have value.
 
Yes they do own it, but once they sell it, the buyer NOW owns it.  IP laws are an attempt to STOP someone form doing something with their legitimately owned property, in that sense it's hardly a protection of the seller but more a threat of force against a legitimate property owner.
 
This is because the mainsteam music market is an aritificial bubble that has been popped by the internet, mainstream musicians were making absurd sums that weren't realistic due to it.  Bandcamp takes around 15% I believe.
 
No it's theoretical because the argument is that because of downloading the artist lost X amount of profits they WOULD HAVE gotten otherwise.  That is a theoretical situation.  Also you're assuming that people who downloaded the music WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT ANYWAY and that is an assumption you cannot make and have no evidence for.
 
illegitimate laws.  Even before the technological revolution, artists didn't make even a fraction of the majority of their profits from sales it was from other avenues. 
 
I don't think everything should be free, if you knew what I thought about other issues you would know that is the opposite of what I believe.  I am however opposed to IP LAW and it will die of it's own accord in due time as it is slowly doing now.  3D printers will be it's ultimate death.
 
Move on plz.

 
You need to read up on the history of inventions. Inventors have had their work stolen many times before ever having the chance to profit from it. IP law protects them from that.
 
The only thing allowing artists, authors, companies, etc. to get credit (and due compensation) for their work is IP law. Otherwise, anyone could come along, make an exact copy, including the logo, and claim/sell it as their own.
 
If your fantasy became reality, someone could steal a photo I took (which I automatically have the rights to and can license out commercially for a profit), claim it as their own, and sell it without giving me credit. Same goes for books, music, and on and on.
 
Others can still "rip off" ideas and sell (or give away) similar products. This is quite common.
 
It's not merely a thought; it's a unique product.
 
Practically every product you use has a unique enough design that is protected under IP law.
 
If you distribute it without authorization, then yes, it would be immoral, and it is illegal copyright infringement. (And do I really need to lecture you on counterfeit law as well?)
 
http://www.riaa.com/resources-learning/about-piracy/
 
Oh, you can do whatever you want with that original copy of the CD. You can listen to it, rip it to digital files for personal use, let someone else borrow it, give it away, make a copy for personal use, or even destroy it. But the moment you make copies (whether physical or digital) and distribute them without permission, you have broken the law.
 
Again, it is provided under a personal use license only. You do not have the license to distribute copies.
 
It doesn't stop you from doing anything with your own property; it attempts to stop you from distributing unauthorized copies, that's all. (And by the way, property rights are also regulated by law...)
 
You're acting like piracy doesn't actually reduce sales. It does. This is a well-known fact and not a matter of opinion at all.
 
Citing tools of criminal activity (3D printers in this case) does not make your argument valid.
 
I find it ironic that you act like you respect the right of artists to charge money for their music when you talk about buying a CD, yet have no respect for the livelihoods of those artists. (Not to mention all the other people who work so hard in the music industry.) You cannot respect the right of a creator to profit from one sale if you do not respect their right to profit from all sales, including preventing people from getting their product without paying for it.
 
Creators automatically hold the rights to their creations, including copies of them. If they so wish, they can license out that right so more can benefit from it. If you do not believe this, then you have zero respect for creators, artists, and businesses.
 
Your attitude (that is becoming increasingly prevalent) denies the right of creators to profit from their hard work and is harming the music industry as well as countless others.
 

  Many of the bands on Bandcamp unfortunately upsample to FLAC.

 
Evidence?

 

[Music Alchemist]

The Well-Intentioned Virus by Zao
 
Zao's new album. This is the band that got me into extreme metal. If you aren't familiar with them, you should hear this and this album first, as I consider those their best work. This new one is just okay. You might like it if you're into black metal and/or metalcore. I suppose you could say the music on this particular album is closer to hardcore punk than metal, but the vocals are more like black metal than what you would expect from a metalcore band.

 

[bavinck]

Really been enjoying the Dopethrone stuff that @Ike1985 posted - just so groovy.
 
I missed out on the discussion about extreme films, so I am going to try one out tonight. Which is these do you guys think I should try? (list courtesy of @Music Alchemist )
A Serbian Film
Cannibal Holocaust
Morgan is Missing
[REC]
 
Which one should I start with?

 

[Music Alchemist]

I missed out on the discussion about extreme films, so I am going to try one out tonight. Which is these do you guys think I should try? (list courtesy of @Music Alchemist ) A Serbian Film
Cannibal Holocaust
Morgan is Missing
[REC]
 
Which one should I start with?

 
The list I gave you was in order, so to speak. (And it's Megan, not Morgan. heh.) But we could go into such detail about movies that I feel that's better left to its own thread.

 

[wrathzombie]

Recently I have started listening to Hip Hop, is there a similar thread in Head-F for Hip Hop
 
EDIT: Searched and found one thread.

 

[Riley Beale]

I love Unspoken by Lacuna Coil off of the Comalies album.  It always almost brings tears to my eyes. 

 

[ColonelBucket8]

Symphonic, Industrial, Djent, Cyber, Melodic DM. Such a unique atmosphere
 
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/album/progenitor
 

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Recently I have started listening to Hip Hop, is there a similar thread in Head-F for Hip Hop
 
EDIT: Searched and found one thread.

 
It's not very active anymore.
 
I grew up listening to rap like Puff Daddy, DMX, The LOX, Eminem, etc. My favorite rapper might be Mega Ran.
 
http://megaranmusic.com
Check out the free downloads by him at the top of my thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/731523/the-free-music-thread-100-legal-downloads-of-all-formats
 
I wonder whether there is metal done in an actual hip hop style. (Rap metal doesn't sound like that at all.)
 

  Symphonic, Industrial, Djent, Cyber, Melodic DM. Such a unique atmosphere
 
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/album/progenitor

 
Free tracks!
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/andromeda-2016
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/andromeda-2016-instrumental
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/andromeda-2011
 
Epic stuff. Sorta like a progressive symphonic version of Fear Factory. Too bad the production sucks.

 

[Riley Beale]

  Symphonic, Industrial, Djent, Cyber, Melodic DM. Such a unique atmosphere
 
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/album/progenitor
 

Nice.  Thanks for sharing.  I will have to add Mechina to my music library.

 

[wrathzombie]

   
It's not very active anymore.
 
I grew up listening to rap like Puff Daddy, DMX, The LOX, Eminem, etc. My favorite rapper might be Mega Ran.
 
http://megaranmusic.com
Check out the free downloads by him at the top of my thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/731523/the-free-music-thread-100-legal-downloads-of-all-formats
 
I wonder whether there is metal done in an actual hip hop style. (Rap metal doesn't sound like that at all.)
 
 
Free tracks!
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/andromeda-2016
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/andromeda-2016-instrumental
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/andromeda-2011
 
Epic stuff. Sorta like a progressive symphonic version of Fear Factory. Too bad the production sucks.

Lets revive that thread. I am a newbie so dont know how much I would be useful
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/647391/w-rap-sucks-2-0-rap-hiphop-appreciation-thread/3870#post_13081667