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Lets Talk Metal

Discussion in 'Music' started by zackp, Jan 3, 2009.
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  1. macrocheesium
     
    I doubt that he is, but it's a plus. I like having music that I can share with others. I can't really comment on shoegaze since I basically know nothing about it. Are the "black metal" style atmospheric guitars normal for the genre? Because I don't know how you could say that Autre Temps doesn't kick into metal mode around 2:20.
     
  2. Origin89
     
     
    Yea, I really enjoy sharing music with people who already have an appreciation and understanding for it. But I won't go out of my way recruiting people like it's some sort of club. 
     
    Alcest is like Shoegaze Black Metal. I just wouldn't want him to start taking more and more of the Black Metal influence out of it and heading into pure Shoegaze. Straight-up Shoegaze is awesome, but that's being done very well by many other bands already... It seems like he's heading that way by taking out the screams and saying that this isn't a Metal project. I don't know... To be honest, it's really nice stuff regardless. 
     
  3. macrocheesium
     
    I don't think he will, just looking at all of his projects. This guy is all about metal. It seems strange that there were screams on Les Voyages at all, though. I read an interview where he was saying how it was a happy album and he couldn't understand why everyone seemed to think it was supposed to be depressing. I don't speak a word of French, so I was also under the impression that it was melancholy. In that sense I don't think he accomplished his goal.
     
  4. Origin89
     
    Maybe so. Everyone has their idea of happiness. I definitely find joy in most of Alcest's stuff, but there is a sense of longing for the home beyond, so I see melancholy as well. 
     
  5. Tom Yum Goong
    Although Les Voyages de l'Âme is my favourite Alcest album, I really wouldn't mind them making another Souvenirs D'un Autre Monde.
    No screams at all and still really really awesome.


     
  6. Trogdor


    Dude, c'mon, Carcass' Surgical Steel? Seriously, if you have not heard this record, please do so AND YES it's MDM. This record is AMAZING.

    .Also don't forget about Omnium Gatherum's latest which was EXCELLENT too.

    Homework: Listen...

     
  7. Trogdor

    You know even though I agree with most of you regarding Alcest, I do think he peaked with Écailles de Lune. To me, that is his magnum opus. I really want him to go back to that but incorporate some of the "happy" elements of later albums. I thought Les Voyages was too "happy" but still beautiful.

     
  8. Trogdor

    I got to listen to it but those numbers look promising. Certainly above average.
     
  9. markm1
     
    Yeah, so then the question given the Alcest sound-is does it need to be metal? Can it function as something else? And, what is that thing it becomes without metal? Hopefylly not Yanni[​IMG]
     
     I think I know what shoegaze sounds like through metal. But I'm sure I haven't heard a true shoegaze album. Of course their are any number of bands who have dropped metal from their sound. I picked up Ulver's Blood Inside a few years ago-I should actually listen to it again.
     
    I got on a major Isis kick around the time that Panopticon came out and basically decided they were the best thing since sliced bread. Remember the Red Sparrowes? They were billed as having some members of Isis and sounding like Isis without the heavier metallic influences and no vocals. I enjoyed them, but something was missing.....almost like elevator music or something/edit that's not fair-I really liked Red S but.....given the choice, I'd rather listen to Isis.
     
    Neurosis...everyone under the sun sites them as an influence. Their album "The Eye of Every Storm" is quite interesting...very folksy and textured....but essentially devoid of heavy. It almost has a Tom Waits quality-at least vocally. I like it, will listen to it from time to time. Yet, I find them more engaging with the sort of slow burn that has a pay off with some crushing parts.
     
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  11. macrocheesium
     
    I'd like to see some of that too. One of the reasons I like Les Voyages best is the production. Every time I listen to that album it's a completely enveloping experience, and I feel like closing my eyes to take it all in. I don't get that at all with Écailles de Lune, even though musically I like it almost as much. It sounds noticeably more raw, too. If Neige can recreate that experience with the new album, I'll be happy.
     
  12. Origin89
     
    Yea, I was on a pretty big Isis and Neurosis kick back in the day. I also really dug, and still do, Red Sparowes. But I still see the point you're trying to make. Sometimes trying to stay too rigid in the confines of Metal can make seemingly beautiful stuff seem uninteresting because of a bias towards wanting that "Metal" vibe. You can miss out on a lot of really cool stuff. I think I've broken down a bunch of my musical biases as I really enjoy a ton of different styles of music beyond Metal. 
     
  13. macrocheesium
    Alright, so I'm just going to put all of the good bands I've found in the past few weeks into one post rather than keep spreading them out... get ready. Lots of post-metal.

    Alkahest - Post/Doom
     

    Dopamine - Post/Black
     

    Silence of the Old Man - Post/Black 
     

    Galaktik Cancer Squad - BM with a lot of variety
     

    Dreadnought - Just calling it Prog wouldn't be fair. I have absolutely no idea where to start. A lot of jazz and BM in there. 
     

    Enshine - Post metal with some almost doom vocals
     

    Mourning Beloveth - Death/Doom
     

    Lìam - Post-metal, slightly Black
     
    I've been busy.
     
  14. BLACKENEDPLAGUE

     
  15. markm1
    Holy Crap-this is metal I can get into....good stuff! I wonder how far the Post Black Metal trend is going to go....interesting sounds  you found for sure.
     
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