Lake People G109 / G103 thread
Aug 29, 2012 at 6:58 PM Post #46 of 729
I remember some carriers USED to charge us 7% or so of the total value of the product but they had not done that in a few years... so My guess is that indeed it is some kind of "Tax"... So if the amp was $400... 7 percent should be almost $30 so maybe it's something like that.?!
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 8:00 PM Post #47 of 729
Devhen

Yeah i bought them direct from Lake People, paid the shipping up front and they arrived 2 business days later.... Only the UPS guy would not give them to me till I scratched out a check for $30.00

He said it was for import duty fees.... I am in Long Beach so maybe there is a local Port import fee as opposed to say New York... I honestly dont know... Not a really big deal but I thought I should share it. A college kid may have a bit more trouble with an unexpected $30 fee than me.

On the positive side I've never heard my ortho headphones sound so good.... this amp is absolutely amazing with my Hifiman cans... the lows sound impressive, the mids and highs are smooth.... wonderfully linear... it really gets out of the way and lets you enjoy your music to its full potential.
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM Post #48 of 729
I suppose since its a Violectric I'll need to move my impressions over to another thread but seeing how the G109 and V90 share nearly identical circuitry... with the G109 having a RK27 blue velvet pot and discrete output and the V90 having a RK14 pot and an opamp output being the only differences.... same cap array, same power transformer, same gain stage opamps....

I guess my final words here are impressed... very impressed... I can take my 300 ohm Senns and ortho cans to new levels of performance with Freid's amp.... my portable and Fiio amps both start breaking up at higher volumes... the V90 seems to get better and better the higher I take it... Where my National was a nogo at loud volumes because distortion would start fraying the edges of the transients and more dynamic passages... the V90 seems completely confident... to give it a car analogy... its like the confident anchored feeling you have driving a BMW... i used to think the Hifiman cans just couldnt handle the higher volumes with dynamic low frequency runs, complex arangements etc... I now have a greater appreciation for these cans matched with an amp that can truly keep pace and bring out the best in them.

Impressed
 
Sep 4, 2012 at 1:57 AM Post #49 of 729
Very, very cool. Glad you're liking the V90. Now I'm looking forward even more to trying my G109 with some orthos. Thanks for sharing.
 
Sep 7, 2012 at 5:37 PM Post #50 of 729
I wonder if the now passed G100 was much more alike to the V100 / V200 than the new G10x-series.
 
Sep 7, 2012 at 7:22 PM Post #51 of 729
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I wonder if the now passed G100 was much more alike to the V100 / V200 than the new G10x-series.

 
What makes you think that? Or are you just wondering?
 
Sep 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM Post #52 of 729
Yeah I suppose specifically the G103 is a lot less like the V100 / V200, as well as the G109 in that its using SMD components. It would be very interesting to know how the G109 compares to the others-- G100, V90, V100, V200. I guess I could send my G109-S to someone who has some of the others, for comparison, but IDK if I can go without it for that long. :)
 
Sep 19, 2012 at 10:41 AM Post #53 of 729
I'll be adding more thoughts about my G109-S soon. For now I'll point out that I don't think the G109 has what it takes to push the HE6 to its full potential but should work quite well with pretty much any of the other orthos. More thoughts to come on how the G109-S is doing with my HD600 and DT770 600 ohm (very good BTW).
 
Oct 28, 2012 at 7:36 AM Post #54 of 729
Has anyone tried G103 with Beyerdynamic T1? Is it powerful enough?
Until now I only use it with low impedance headphones (HE-400, ATH W3000anv). As I am about to get a T1 I'd like to know more about such a pairing.
 
tiebreaker question: is it a good pairing with HD800 ?
 
in advance, thanks!
 
Oct 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM Post #55 of 729
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Has anyone tried G103 with Beyerdynamic T1? Is it powerful enough?
Until now I only use it with low impedance headphones (HE-400, ATH W3000anv). As I am about to get a T1 I'd like to know more about such a pairing.
 
tiebreaker question: is it a good pairing with HD800 ?
 
in advance, thanks!

It Will be Fine with HD-800 or T1 G103 will deliver enough to them from an electrical stand point , if it's a good pairing or not depend more in your tastes . G103 will not make highs sweeter  , warm up mids , or add body to bass ...   
 
I just briefly compared a G109-P and Auditor With HD600 not at home (HD600 is not a can that i know well ... , volume matching was not done , but they showed many similitudes) , G103 has lower spec but it will folow the same pace for the sound : Transparent and neutral .
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM Post #57 of 729
I've been making direct comparison for an hour with G109-S and V200, fed from V800 simultaneously (XLR -> V200, RCA -> G109). So it's a one second switch to move the jack.. the holes must feel quite abused by now. 
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The differences are so neglible (dare I say non-existent?) that I'm returning the V200 (and ultimately V800, I'll just compare it to Realiser and ODAC first). I just can't make myself to pay for the sexy looks.
 
LCD-3's as phones (and lots of HD tracks).
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 11:29 PM Post #58 of 729
Did you use any IEM in your testing? More often than not IEMs are more difficult loads than full-sizes, and where the higher damping factor of the V200 may make a difference.

Rocking a G103 right now, plenty awesome for the price and better than my previous O2 in imaging and details.
 
Dec 10, 2012 at 10:38 AM Post #60 of 729
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I've been making direct comparison for an hour with G109-S and V200, fed from V800 simultaneously (XLR -> V200, RCA -> G109). So it's a one second switch to move the jack.. the holes must feel quite abused by now. 
biggrin.gif

 
The differences are so neglible (dare I say non-existent?) that I'm returning the V200 (and ultimately V800, I'll just compare it to Realiser and ODAC first). I just can't make myself to pay for the sexy looks.
 
LCD-3's as phones (and lots of HD tracks).

 
Its great to finally hear a G109/V200 comparison! Thanks hekeli. Very interesting indeed. G109 looks to be a great performer for the price.
 
FYI, Tyll has added some amp measurements that include the G109. See pages 13 and 14 of this PDF:
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/121105_blog_update_FirstAmpTests.pdf
 

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