Ksc-35 arrived. But...
Jun 7, 2003 at 7:54 PM Post #16 of 46
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I don't like boomy bass, but i like present and punchy bass. I simply think that ksc-35 are good straight out of the box, but they're perfect with +4 bass boost.


And that's the problem. You don't know what present and punchy bass actually is.
 
Jun 7, 2003 at 7:58 PM Post #17 of 46
This may shock you to hear this but...I did turn up the bass EQ setting way up on my MP3 player when I got my Portapros. Yep. Don't worry though, I have made a complete, total recovery and evolved into someone who appreciates good sound
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Jun 7, 2003 at 8:16 PM Post #18 of 46
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Originally posted by radrd
And that's the problem. You don't know what present and punchy bass actually is.


Look, I like music with crisp highs and deep bass = clear and deep music. So i raise the high frequency from zero to +9 and the bass frequency from zero to +4 in order to emulate my home (and great) stereo system.
 
Jun 7, 2003 at 8:22 PM Post #19 of 46
Too much bass is not good. The badest headphones I have ever listed to was the senn 212; it was all muddy and unclear, due to the bass. They sounded even worst then the iPod phones
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IMO. They are semi-closed cans thoug, so that might explains it
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Jun 7, 2003 at 8:43 PM Post #20 of 46
Ah, just let him enjoy the music the way temp wants to listen to it. I too used to be like him. I bought my ksc35s 3 years ago, before I found head-fi and I had no idea what "good sound" sounded like and turned up the bass boost.

However, I do agree with the other posts that if you never try listening to no eq for awhile, you'll never be able to hear the koss's true potential. I didn't see what was so great about them compared to other headphones and I even stopped using them for a year or two and switched to Sony street style (aah the shame
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). After I discovered head-fi, I went back to the ksc35s and turned off bass boost. After listening to them for a week and switching back to the sony g72s, I noticed the differences right away.

I'm relatively new here and I don't have much experience with hi-fi, but even I could tell that the bass was way overblown. You just gotta try man, be more open to suggestions
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Jun 7, 2003 at 8:52 PM Post #21 of 46
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Look, I like music with crisp highs and deep bass = clear and deep music. So i raise the high frequency from zero to +9 and the bass frequency from zero to +4 in order to emulate my home (and great) stereo system.


Enjoy your music then. It sounds to me like your home system might be junk or you are turning up the bass and treble controls at home too, but whatever floats your boat. If you aren't willing to consider the possibility that you don't know what good sound is in the first place, there really isn't anything more to be said.
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Jun 7, 2003 at 8:57 PM Post #22 of 46
Temp, if turning up the bass setting works for you then good for you. I think what everyone here, IMO, is trying to tell you is that you will learn to appreciate "good bass" when you become more knowledgeable to what "good bass" really is. Sure, what you are hearing now pleases you, and that's what's ultimately important. But once you hear what good bass really is through possibly better gear and hear what you are missing, you will realize that what you had perceived as being good wasn't. Educating your ears if you will. And once this happens is when you get hooked and start upgrading every damn piece of equipment you own because you know you can improve your current setup to get better sound....it's like a drug...damn....I love this hobby...
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Jun 7, 2003 at 9:04 PM Post #24 of 46
Make sure the high frequency is at 0 as well; no equilization at all is the way to go. And you can always turn it back on again if you find yourself not enjoying it flat. We're just asking you to give it a significant chance at flat, like for two weeks or so.
 
Jun 7, 2003 at 9:06 PM Post #25 of 46
I've turned the eq off so everything is flat now.
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Originally posted by radrd
Make sure the high frequency is at 0 as well; no equilization at all is the way to go. And you can always turn it back on again if you find yourself not enjoying it flat. We're just asking you to give it a significant chance at flat, like for two weeks or so.


 
Jun 7, 2003 at 9:06 PM Post #26 of 46
With classical music and jazz, the ksc-35 have a nice, dark sound, but no boomy bass. And I heard very little difference with burn-in, but then my ears are closer to tin than gold.....
 
Jun 7, 2003 at 9:47 PM Post #27 of 46
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I've turned the eq off so everything is flat now.


Good for you! I don't think you will regret it. And you should definitely try EQ again in a few weeks to see if you like it better. You might be one of those people who prefer EQ, but it never hurts to try something new, right?
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Jun 8, 2003 at 4:04 AM Post #28 of 46
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Originally posted by temp
Ok, I've put the bass frequency to zero right now. I'll try this setting for a while and then i'll let you know if something has changed.


It will sound funny to you for a while.. you'll probably feel like you're missing something for about a week... give it at least two weeks like that.l. it'll sound odd for a while..

I used to have Sony CD-MDR270s', and I would use Bass Boost with them.. Those are closed headphones with a lot of crappy boomy base without bass boost on... and I always thought I wanted MORE bass..

I really thought that Grado SR80s sounded terrible when I first heard them.. (I still don't love them.. but I like thjem a lot more now..)... I thought they sounded aweful compared to my Sonys with my bass boost.

But eventually I cut off the bass-boost.. and then once I got used to it without bass-boost, I tried turning it on again.. and I didn't like it at all.. it sounded dirty..

That process is what lead me to spending about $360CDN for my HD590 headphones.. and I never use any EQ anymore..

That being said, if you like it the way it sounds - then great.. Just give it a chance to listen without any equilization on for a while, and see what you think.. You may realize there was a lot of sound you were missing because the bass was obscuring it. Although, in the end what sounds good to one person is opinion, and I certainly encourage you to listen to what osunds best to you!
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Jun 10, 2003 at 1:09 PM Post #29 of 46
Ok guys....DO U REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS?
I was wearing them in the wrong way!! The clip wasn't attached to my ear and that's why i could hear little bass! The fact is that I have small ears and the clip won't stay there for long. What should i do to make these headphones pressed to my ears? Thank you guys.
 

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