Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Aug 5, 2022 at 7:33 AM Post #59,776 of 63,796
I ordered a pair also. Let's see how this will turn out. I haven't purchased any kz product since kz asx.
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 6:24 PM Post #59,777 of 63,796
Just received my KZ AS16 Pro, and wanted to post a quick impression compared to the AS12 - the AS16 Pro comes across as a bit more refined, with a little less bass. This is with FDBRO balanced cable, plugged into a TempoTec Sonata BHD, connected to a Temptec V1 for music playback. My preferred tip for the AS12 is the JVC Spiral Dot, which works fine with the AS16 Pro, but with the slightly reduced bass output, I decided to try the bassiest tip in my collection, so bassy I hadn't found a a good pairing on any of my other IEMs, the New Bee Silicone Eartip, and I think it works well. I'll need to listen more, but electronic music sounds good on the AS16 Pro with the New Bee Silicone. For some reason, they're not available right now on Amazon (they were $6.99 for six pairs when I bought them):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9PWD5Y/

So if you feel the AS16 Pro is lacking bass, try putting the bassiest tips you have on them, they might surprise you!
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 6:40 PM Post #59,778 of 63,796
Just received my KZ AS16 Pro, and wanted to post a quick impression compared to the AS12 - the AS16 Pro comes across as a bit more refined, with a little less bass. This is with FDBRO balanced cable, plugged into a TempoTec Sonata BHD, connected to a Temptec V1 for music playback. My preferred tip for the AS12 is the JVC Spiral Dot, which works fine with the AS16 Pro, but with the slightly reduced bass output, I decided to try the bassiest tip in my collection, so bassy I hadn't found a a good pairing on any of my other IEMs, the New Bee Silicone Eartip, and I think it works well. I'll need to listen more, but electronic music sounds good on the AS16 Pro with the New Bee Silicone. For some reason, they're not available right now on Amazon (they were $6.99 for six pairs when I bought them):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9PWD5Y/

So if you feel the AS16 Pro is lacking bass, try putting the bassiest tips you have on them, they might surprise you!
I have a set of the CP100(red) I'm going to try when mine arrive. I'll report back...
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 6:49 AM Post #59,780 of 63,796
I have 2nd pair of ZES one died. I have most of KZ lineup and 7hz timeless and Fiio FH5s. I can't stop listening to ZES. Certain transitions on ZES are magic, I just want to volume up. But I have to flick my ear for one of or both drivers to start working in right ear. So sad. Ordered 3rd just in case.
I hope I can find people to say that music it outputs is more emotional rather than specific and compliant. Using TRN balanced cable on either Shangling Up5 or Fiio BTR5. Waiting for Q5C in the mail.

Maybe it sounds much like Sony XBA-H3 that I lost. I have to get hands on XBA-Z5 sometime. I wonder if tribid be too clear and clinical for me like Yanyin X HBB Mahina. Plus sonys sport 16mm driver.
 
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Aug 6, 2022 at 4:38 PM Post #59,781 of 63,796
My aecond AS16 pro (first ordered) arrived today, look sleek:
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Black aluminum is heavily anodized/coated; should be good for wear & tear. Titanum grey could work out best - perhaps for "pro ultra" :)

No units variation (alleged for ESX by the same "unbiased reviewers" that perpetuated KZ driver problems and bashed all recent KZs :frowning2:).

ESX grew on me as a complimentary DD to all-BAs to fill Blon-03 and Aria's niche for me.

I have enjoyed AS16 pro with Tempotec BHD today for even softer mellow signature, as super-AS10 :)
try my eq for esx
GraphicEQ: 200 -6.5; 250 -3.5; 300 -3; 400 -2.5; 500 -2; 600 -1.5; 700 -1.7; 800 -1.8; 900 -2.2; 1000 -2.5; 1125 -3.5; 1250 -4; 1500 -6.5; 2400 -6.5; 2576 -3.2; 3013.1 0; 3300 -2.5; 4000 -4.5; 4513.6 -13.8; 4912.5 -8.9; 6000 -7.5; 6100 -5.5; 6996.6 -0.7; 8000 -5.5; 8824 -13.6; 9000 -9.5; 9400 -6.5; 9900.14 -6.5
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 10:22 PM Post #59,782 of 63,796
Hi. What's the treble energy of these as16 pros compared to other well known KZs? ZS7 for example. Thanks in advance for any replies
Quite tamed and relaxed (no edge to the treble really, some people may also find it lacking). One of the most tamed treble presentation by KZ/CCA in my opinion along with DQ6S.
 
Aug 8, 2022 at 2:50 AM Post #59,783 of 63,796
Just received my KZ AS16 Pro, and wanted to post a quick impression compared to the AS12 - the AS16 Pro comes across as a bit more refined, with a little less bass. This is with FDBRO balanced cable, plugged into a TempoTec Sonata BHD, connected to a Temptec V1 for music playback. My preferred tip for the AS12 is the JVC Spiral Dot, which works fine with the AS16 Pro, but with the slightly reduced bass output, I decided to try the bassiest tip in my collection, so bassy I hadn't found a a good pairing on any of my other IEMs, the New Bee Silicone Eartip, and I think it works well. I'll need to listen more, but electronic music sounds good on the AS16 Pro with the New Bee Silicone. For some reason, they're not available right now on Amazon (they were $6.99 for six pairs when I bought them):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9PWD5Y/

So if you feel the AS16 Pro is lacking bass, try putting the bassiest tips you have on them, they might surprise you!
Does the nozzles has the same diameter?
 
Aug 8, 2022 at 8:01 PM Post #59,784 of 63,796
Does the nozzles has the same diameter?
Yes, the same nozzles (mesh is denser on Pro grids) the same shell with a different plate as original AS16.

try my eq for esx
GraphicEQ: 200 -6.5; 250 -3.5; 300 -3; 400 -2.5; 500 -2; 600 -1.5; 700 -1.7; 800 -1.8; 900 -2.2; 1000 -2.5; 1125 -3.5; 1250 -4; 1500 -6.5; 2400 -6.5; 2576 -3.2; 3013.1 0; 3300 -2.5; 4000 -4.5; 4513.6 -13.8; 4912.5 -8.9; 6000 -7.5; 6100 -5.5; 6996.6 -0.7; 8000 -5.5; 8824 -13.6; 9000 -9.5; 9400 -6.5; 9900.14 -6.5
Along your lines, I tried ESX with CX31993 and it synergized very well for a brighter more cheerful signature.
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With the soft colour- matching and electron-friendly cable, it is just a mighty setup under $50

Then I was tired a bit and switched to BHD for more relaxing sound.
ESX is very synergetically friendly IEM.
ESX continued to grow on me to become my favourite single DD (to complement all-BA IEMs).

Quite tamed and relaxed (no edge to the treble really, some people may also find it lacking). One of the most tamed treble presentation by KZ/CCA in my opinion along with DQ6S.
Very nice review on ESX!

As for AS16 pro, the teble is quite nice and gentle, but then AST, CCA CA16, CA10 and AS10 would be gentler in their treble to me.
Higher impedance does bring more treble for the Pro.

I "crafted" two variable balanced (2.5 mm) impedance adapters:
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The hot glue is my ersatz of the "duck tape", I did "sculpt" the enclosures :)

The adapter above is just a volume control cable (1 kOhm resistor) adapted (my adaptation of the adapter :)) to a balanced mode.
This type of volume control is arguably the best variable impedance adapter for jusr under $5.

Below are the adapter with two variable resistors for fine and very precise (though quite painful) adjustment of the impedance on each channel from ca. 0.5 to 22.5 Ohm.

A lot of fun with all-BA IEMs, I did not expect that much variation/changes :)
A powerful DAC is really helpful to fully enjoy these adapters.
 
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Aug 9, 2022 at 12:35 PM Post #59,785 of 63,796
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Ahmm...
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 12:56 PM Post #59,786 of 63,796
I just got the email that my AS16 pro's just landed stateside. Should just be a couple more days :)
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 8:49 PM Post #59,788 of 63,796
Aug 10, 2022 at 12:43 AM Post #59,789 of 63,796

For split second I thought a of new multi driver KZ with great tuning because of "VX" word had me thinking about TRN VX
new single driver TWS, great tuning, questionable stability, batt life, codec and connection.
 
Aug 10, 2022 at 4:04 AM Post #59,790 of 63,796
For split second I thought a of new multi driver KZ with great tuning because of "VX" word had me thinking about TRN VX
new single driver TWS, great tuning, questionable stability, batt life, codec and connection.
So I can buy a single DD TWS with a BT codec that isn't supported on my phone. Then I can playback with a worse codec than my current gear supports. HELL YEAH!
 

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