[TooPoorForHiFi]

I'll let you know when mine arrive this week. I ordered a balanced cable, which will probably get here before the iems themselves.

Curious, what Cable did you go w/?

 

[CYoung234]

Can somebody compare CCA C16 and ZS10 Pro for me?

I have quite a few KZ earphones and can say ZS10 Pro is the best KZ iem I have had the pleasure to listen to

the zs10 pro is a different animal than the zs10--the pro is brighter, more treble-focused and has a more intimate stage. also, it's a smaller, sleeker design and its fit and comfort are much better. haven't heard the c16.

My top 5:

ZS10 Pro
ZS7
ZSN
AS10
AS06

Well, thanks to these bad influences, I will let you know in a month or so how the CCA C16 and ZS10 PRO compare.... You people are bad...

 

[jeromeaparis]

And the weird thing here is that initially Slater concludes that the problem is with the audio file (or running wireless), not the portable gear. Then it somehow turns into exalting the magic pros of specialized players over smartphones. Even Xiaomi for 150 bucks has great crosstalk performances, THD levels well below 1% (inaudible) and flat frequency responses within hundredths of a single decibel.
Unless you want to drive high impedance and\or low sensitivity drivers there's no need for audiophile DACs, players or amplifiers.

I agree with you, cause I was very surprised when I got my Xiaomi Mi8 lite (175€ on Euro Amazon) that the sound was so great ! As there is no 3.5mm earphone output, I use the stock converter USB-c to 3.5mm

I have a Pioneer DAP XDP-30R with twin Sabre DAC, used mostly with KZ AS10 on the balanced 2.5mm output
but I like to listen to the Mi8 lite. It is specialy good with the ES4 (with kz silver plated cable, twisted iron grey) with ZS6 (with trn cable yellow & silver)

 

[HAMS]

talking about no 3.5mm audio jack remind me something to ask about, How is TRN BT20 module works with KZ para C connector? I know it will stick out longer but is it safe / strong (edit : and comfortable ) enough for gym using? I'm talking about normal BT20 0.78mm to para C connector like ZSN or ZS10 pro. Thanks in advance Slater

BT20 SQ is meh compared to wired to my smartphone. But I hear KZ has better SQ if not for connection issue. BT20 also clamp your ear so much it will get hurt after a while.

 

[Zune]

I've just ordered a set of ZS10 Pro and for the hell of it a set of KZ ATR because they are so stupidly cheap. These will be my first remotely decent IEMs so i'm really looking forward to trying but it looks like they are going to take an age to arrive to the UK.

EDIT: Oh and i've ordered a balanced cable too. Thanks to those who helped me identify the correct one

 

[Slater]

BT20 also clamp your ear so much it will get hurt after a while.

You can heat the ear hooks with a hair dryer to loosen them a bit.

 

[Slater]

...but it looks like they are going to take an age to arrive to the UK.

You get used to the long wait after a while

 

[fredhubbard2]

I've just ordered a set of ZS10 Pro and for the hell of it a set of KZ ATR because they are so stupidly cheap. These will be my first remotely decent IEMs so i'm really looking forward to trying but it looks like they are going to take an age to arrive to the UK.

you may not need to wait that long ... depends where you ordered. my eBay purchases usually take about 10 days. hang in there!

 

[Zune]

you may not need to wait that long ... depends where you ordered. my eBay purchases usually take about 10 days. hang in there!

I ordered the IEM's on Amazon and the balanced cable on Aliexpress. My first DAP will arrive in the next four days so I'll be climbing the walls for a little while

 

[Slater]

I ordered the IEM's on Amazon and the balanced cable on Aliexpress. My first DAP will arrive in the next four days so I'll be climbing the walls for a little while

 

[Zerohour88]

bisonicr's review on the AS16 (in japanese, as usual):

http://bisonicr.ldblog.jp/archives/55765069.html

a flatter sound sig compared to CCA C16, seems KZ used newer BA models for the highs?

 

[Aparker2005]

Loving my AS16. My favorite of my KZ so far. Gonna keep my as10 for backup

 

[Slater]

bisonicr's review on the AS16 (in japanese, as usual):

http://bisonicr.ldblog.jp/archives/55765069.html

a flatter sound sig compared to CCA C16, seems KZ used newer BA models for the highs?

The odd thing to me is that it sounds like the C16 should have been a KZ and the A16 should have been a CCA. Since balanced signatures is kinda CCAs thing.

 

[archdawg]

bisonicr's review on the AS16 (in japanese, as usual):

http://bisonicr.ldblog.jp/archives/55765069.html

... seems KZ used newer BA models for the highs?

My second set of KZ6 doesn't sound nearly as bright (upper mids) and piercing as my older pair. Maybe these days they're using different 30095 BAs ('customized') than half a year ago and if so they possibly use them for pretty much everything else in their lineup as well. (Still waiting for my third pair, they already cleared customs and should arrive in a couple days.)

 

[archdawg]

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