Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
May 28, 2018 at 1:07 PM Post #32,806 of 63,803
ave you noticed that the length from the iem to the Y split is super long? Way too long. that is one reason it tangles. Should be shorter AND have a chin slider.

Yes and you can get small little rubber band for a slider.

I would want it to look good...not just look like a rubber band

I have solved the problem. I will take a photo in the morning when there is better light.

Turns out I had a proper chin slider all along. A spare came with my MEMT T5. I wonder if we could get MEMT to sell them.


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May 28, 2018 at 2:01 PM Post #32,807 of 63,803
ZSA's now in phase with straight plug reversed on left earpiece. Now they sound mighty for their tiny size

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May 28, 2018 at 3:46 PM Post #32,808 of 63,803
ZSA's now in phase with straight plug reversed on left earpiece. Now they sound mighty for their tiny size

More impressions please! VS ATE / ZS5v1 / ZST would be nice...
 
May 28, 2018 at 3:59 PM Post #32,809 of 63,803
Anybody in the know on sound difference, if any, between the Blue ed8s and the Red ed8s? I know it was asked about here before I became a KZ enthusiast, but it was only answered by one guy(cant remember name) who said he couldn't tell the difference. Just making sure I don't have to buy in red, which I will probably do anyway, but yea.
 
May 28, 2018 at 5:23 PM Post #32,810 of 63,803
ZSA's now in phase with straight plug reversed on left earpiece. Now they sound mighty for their tiny size

You have so many IEM’s! Can you describe what they flourish in (at least for their price)?
 
May 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM Post #32,811 of 63,803
You have so many IEM’s! Can you describe what they flourish in (at least for their price)?
The sound is huge for such a small iem, kind of U-shaped, but without the high treble of ZS5 or ZS6. I have listened to pop, electronic and jazz, male and female artists with them so far and they just sound right with songs I am familiar with
 
May 28, 2018 at 6:02 PM Post #32,813 of 63,803
The sound is huge for such a small iem, kind of U-shaped, but without the high treble of ZS5 or ZS6. I have listened to pop, electronic and jazz, male and female artists with them so far and they just sound right with songs I am familiar with

Thanks for the feedback Panda.

Two questions if you don't mind:

1) How similar is the ZSA sound signature to the EMI CI-880 (C630)?

2) How similar is the ZSR sound signature to the ZhiYin Z5000?

When you get a chance.
Thanks
 
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May 28, 2018 at 6:13 PM Post #32,814 of 63,803
Thanks for the feedback Panda.

Two questions if you don't mind:

1) How similar is the ZSA sound signature to the EMI CI-880 (C630)?

2) How similar is the ZSR sound signature to the ZhiYin Z5000?

When you get a chance.
Thanks
2) In sound signature, the ZSR and Z5000 are pretty much alike. The Z5000 however has way more extension on the bass end and in the highs. It also shows more detail. The ZSR has a slight mid bump the Z5000 lacks.

Love em both. :D The Z5000 for music sessions and the ZSR as a daily commuter. It doesn’t catch wind noise when biking at all - a great feature!
 
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May 28, 2018 at 6:51 PM Post #32,816 of 63,803
Thanks for the feedback Panda.

Two questions if you don't mind:

1) How similar is the ZSA sound signature to the EMI CI-880 (C630)?

2) How similar is the ZSR sound signature to the ZhiYin Z5000?

When you get a chance.
Thanks
1) ZSA has more controlled bass than E-MI C1880, ZSA treble not as sharp, ZSA has less soundstage, mids are similar. Drums sound better on ZSA

2)ZSR sound very like Z5000. The bass is not as clean on ZSR, mids are very alike, ZSR treble slightly more rolled off

Listened to all 4 with large starline tips using the same song below

 
May 28, 2018 at 8:52 PM Post #32,817 of 63,803
1) ZSA has more controlled bass than E-MI C1880, ZSA treble not as sharp, ZSA has less soundstage, mids are similar. Drums sound better on ZSA

2)ZSR sound very like Z5000. The bass is not as clean on ZSR, mids are very alike, ZSR treble slightly more rolled off

Listened to all 4 with large starline tips using the same song below



Thanks Panda! You just saved me from buying the EMI CI-880. I love it's sound signature but I hate that it can only be ordered with a microphone. Since it sounds like the ZSA is a slight variation with tighter bass and detachable cables I think I'll get two of the ZSA.

If the ZhiYin Z5000 sounds very similar to the ZSR (Nymphonomaniac's review seemed to describe the ZSR sound signature to a "T") then there really is no need for me to revisit the sound signature unless I want to own a great sounding stainless steel IEM.

Bottom line:

Of course curiosity is giving me an itchy "buy now" finger on the Z5000 and the truth is that I would have picked up a ZSA anyway but reckoning that the ZSA may improve upon the CI-880 sound signature I think I'll just get two ZSA's instead of one ZSA and one CI-880.

Thanks again, Panda. Great feedback!

If any one else with a ZSA and a CI-880 wishes to weigh in on the comparison......please, feel free.
 
May 28, 2018 at 9:14 PM Post #32,818 of 63,803
2) In sound signature, the ZSR and Z5000 are pretty much alike. The Z5000 however has way more extension on the bass end and in the highs. It also shows more detail. The ZSR has a slight mid bump the Z5000 lacks.

Love em both. :D The Z5000 for music sessions and the ZSR as a daily commuter. It doesn’t catch wind noise when biking at all - a great feature!

The one area that I consider to be lacking definition on the ZSR is the mid- to upper-bass. If the Z5000 has even less presence or definition in those FRs then I will surely pass on them, but I bet the diminished mid-bass and increased treble extension keeps them sounding clean and somewhat airy.

KZ has released some true budget gems in the last three years (ED3 "Perfection", ED9, ED8, EDR1, EDSE, EDR2, ATR, ATE, HDS1, HDS3, ZS6, ZS5v1) and I think it's safe to say that they can add the ZSR to that growing list.

It'll be interesting to see where the newer models end up on the food chain.

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All five = $120+/-

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May 28, 2018 at 10:01 PM Post #32,819 of 63,803
The one area that I consider to be lacking definition on the ZSR is the mid- to upper-bass. If the Z5000 has even less presence or definition in those FRs then I will surely pass on them, but I bet the diminished mid-bass and increased treble extension keeps them sounding clean and somewhat airy.

KZ has released some true budget gems in the last three years (ED3 "Perfection", ED9, ED8, EDR1, EDSE, EDR2, ATR, ATE, HDS1, HDS3, ZS6, ZS5v1) and I think it's safe to say that they can add the ZSR to that growing list.

It'll be interesting to see where the newer models end up on the food chain.







All five = $120+/-

It’s not a lack of definition on the Z5000, I’d say. It’s just that it doesn’t do that little KZ trick to spice up a certain frequency and make it punchy. I feel that an area of mids seem to be doing just that in the ZSR, and not in the Z5000, when comparing the two.

Also, I just ordered the ZSA. :p
 
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May 29, 2018 at 1:19 AM Post #32,820 of 63,803
My left KZA earpiece is wired out of phase, I have had to change cable with straight plugs so as I can reverse left side

I'm curious... Won't it be easy to solder the connectors the correct way. I used to solder cellphones back in the day so I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult. Especially since the ZSA opens easily like the KS6. I've got a set of ZSAs ordered myself and use TRN bluetooth for my cables. A straight connector won't be an option for me. I hear the out of phase seems to happen to KZ models once in awhile but hasn't happened to me... yet.
 

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