Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jan 20, 2021 at 8:30 AM Post #53,851 of 56,800

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The BA10 really is remarkable. I think I may get a second pair. I don’t find the treble harsh or grainy either, and also not metallic sounding, but the timbre is still not the most natural, which is not surprising. Even so, I do enjoy it for classical music. The technicalities it displays are quite astounding for its price.


That’s what I’m using now. The KBEar Rhyme with a standard 2 pin connector. It’s a good looking combination also.

I guess the BA10 should sound pretty close to the TRN BA5? The only difference between them is the BA10 has a 31005 instead of a 30095 in the BA5.
 
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I guess the BA10 should sound pretty close to the TRN BA5? The only difference between them is the BA10 has a 31005 instead of a 30095 in the BA5.
As I remember those are different. BA5 is more natural in mids, and darker in lows, but had some peak at highs. BA10 had more transparent tuning. Cleaner midrange, lighter bass and more rolled off treble.
 
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I guess the BA10 should sound pretty close to the TRN BA5? The only difference between them is the BA10 has a 31005 instead of a 30095 in the BA5.
The BA10 has a 4-way crossover, and two 30095. The BA5 has three 30095s and a 3-way crossover. Furthermore, the BA10 has no BAs in the nozzle. So they are quite different.
 
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The BA10 has a 4-way crossover, and two 30095. The BA5 has three 30095s and a 3-way crossover. Furthermore, the BA10 has no BAs in the nozzle. So they are quite different.

What's your liking then?
Just for my curiosity of those BA placement in general.
Always want to hear more from your thoughts .
 
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What's your liking then?
Just for my curiosity of those BA placement in general.
Always want to hear more from your thoughts .
BAs placed in the nozzle often sound very bright. The BA10 is my favourite all BA IEM at the moment. I am currently testing the CCA CS16 (8BA) and it is very promising. I also have the BA5 and CCA C16.
 
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Ii's my favourite iem at the moment, I own re600 and soundmagic e80. I love the tight and fast bass, ideal for double bassdrum kicks. I removed foam under grills, sound is more airy and no sibilance anyway. Mids tonality could be improved to be perfect imho.
I suggest to burn in at least 50 hours, highs get tamed.
 
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The BA10 has a 4-way crossover, and two 30095. The BA5 has three 30095s and a 3-way crossover. Furthermore, the BA10 has no BAs in the nozzle. So they are quite different.

BA5 has no ba in the nozzle.
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I'd be interested in a side by side comparison of the BA10 vs a retuned (via EQ or mods) ASX. Personally, I'm very happy with my EQed ASX - I'm listening with them right now... 📱🎧🎶😎
I am all over modified (wide nozzles) ASX for more than a month now.

I got two pairs.
When I got a second ASX, I compared original with modified (I use the tips with the largest opening for the least constrains).

An original has some strength, but treble is quite curtailed and it feels scooped in low mids.
With the wide nozzles everything opens up, ASX are still a bit of bass-head IEMs for me, but they do have everything to enjoy the music. The vents are really great to avoid the vacuum seal of most all-BAs.

BA10 have crisp tight bass, the treble is quite extended but without much peaks, so it is not overly prominent and intrusive.

Then for me, AS16 are a step forward from BA10 with a bit more overemphasized treble and even leaner bass (but those two same BAs are there if needed for the music I listen to).

I also still return to C16 for their thick lush mids, and U4 of HiSenior are my mid-centric IEM, where legendary Knowles ED29689 really shine.
 
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Hi guys

I wanted to buy another pair for my collection and I've been considering two.

I don't mind the price as because technically those two are equally the same price.

I do have AS10 and AS16.


The choices are BA10 and AS12.


I know those two are designed and tuned differently but if you guys would pick, which of the two? Thanks.


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I went full retard on adding new iems lol.
 
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I do have AS10 and AS16.


The choices are BA10 and AS12.


I know those two are designed and tuned differently but if you guys would pick, which of the two? Thanks.
Hi, I do have AS10 and AS12
We know that AS10 & BA10 have the same drivers, they should sound very close.
And AS12 has the reputation to sound better than AS16.

When I listen to them, AS12 has a different sound than AS10: AS12 bass are stronger, overall sound is even more pure, clear & detailed than AS10
 
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So since you have both, can you briefly describe their sonic difference?
I am currently testing the CS16 and will be posting a review. I plan to include both these IEMs in my comparisons along with the C16 so you will be able to read it then.
 

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