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T2 are on another level compared to KZs. They are a legend around here. $20 extra is nothing - that’s a couple cups of coffee or 2 beers.

Also, the 11.11 sale is coming up on Aliexpress in a few weeks. There will be epic discounts. The T2 is much cheaper then.

Also, Tin Audio is only a few days away from releasing the replacement for the T2. In fact, they have 2 new ones - the T2 Pro and the T3.
Oh, I meant the t2s on amazon were $20 more than buying elsewhere, not $20 more than the kz. Sorry for the confusion.

Ah nice I will check those out
 
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Oh, I meant the t2s on amazon were $20 more than buying elsewhere, not $20 more than the kz. Sorry for the confusion.

Ah nice I will check those out
Got it.

Well, in my experience, EVERYTHING on Amazon is more expensive than Aliexpress. The premium is for the convenience of fast shipping, Amazon returns, etc.

Amazon does have a lot of lightning deals though, where the prices are much closer (and sometimes even lower).
 
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Got it.

Well, in my experience, EVERYTHING on Amazon is more expensive than Aliexpress. The premium is for the convenience of fast shipping, Amazon returns, etc.
Except when there is a really good lightning deal.

Also the Artiste DC1 was cheaper on Amazon UK than on ali. Actually it still is cheaper. £22

You just have to compare individual items when you shop. Sometimes discontinued things end of on Amazon.
 
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Oh, I meant the t2s on amazon were $20 more than buying elsewhere, not $20 more than the kz. Sorry for the confusion.

Ah nice I will check those out


I’ve been contemplating getting the T2s. Do you have a link where the T2 is $20 cheaper than Amazon? I see on AliExpress it’s approximately $50, and on Amazon it’s pretty much the same price, same for Penon Audio.

Thanks.
 
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I’ve been contemplating getting the T2s. Do you have a link where the T2 is $20 cheaper than Amazon? I see on AliExpress it’s approximately $50, and on Amazon it’s pretty much the same price, same for Penon Audio.

Thanks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/9anq2x/tin_audio_t2_for_30/

Apparently they were on sale for $30 on aliexpress two weeks ago. Not much help now, but keep an eye out. I seen them for $40 on amazon and ebay too last week, but the price is $50 now
 
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The red/gold combo is a bit over the top for me. It's a novel approach but I couldn't pull the trigger on that color combination.

The proper thing to do would be
1) All black
2) All red
3) All gold
4) black/gold

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Wondering if the triple-vented faceplates and empty space in the cavity will diffuse some of that bass from the low frequency BA.

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Mimicking the dynamics of the ZS6's full-bodied bass but with faster decay and better texture might put this on another level if the midrange is dense, forward and smooth.


If they double up on any BA then double up the mid/high BA (31005) and not the high frequency (30095).

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Comfort remains to be seen but at $129 these better outperform the ZS6 on every front:

Imaging
Separation
Timbre (probably the most crucial differentiation at three times the ZS6's price)
Treble
Midrange
Mid-bass
Sub-bass

.......but mostly on KZ's legendary price-to-performance ratio.

Edit:

Looks like a price correction was in order.

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Dude, what's with the inappropriate icon?
 
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Super, danke für diese Vorschläge, ich werde sie überprüfen. Ich habe sofort an KZ gedacht, weil sie als Marke auf Amazon verfügbar sind.

You can also try a BlitzWolf BW VOX1. Very nice relaxed heights.
 
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Waaah, pulling the trigger on the BA10.

I’ve gone for black / red, which I’ve heard there are delays too. So if you are keen to be the first, go for the gold ones!

Need to get rid of some of my old KZs already!
 
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The red/gold combo is a bit over the top for me. It's a novel approach but I couldn't pull the trigger on that color combination.

The proper thing to do would be
1) All black
2) All red
3) All gold
4) black/gold
I agree. Also there have been enough red/black combos. I like your color choices better.
 
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Waaah, pulling the trigger on the BA10.

I’ve gone for black / red, which I’ve heard there are delays too. So if you are keen to be the first, go for the gold ones!

Need to get rid of some of my old KZs already!
Really thinking about these. I love the ZS10 with Comply smartcore audio pro tips.want to hear something about these first though. Also thinking about the bgvp dmg as well. Read good things about that closed back for $130. I'm not trying to own a large number of iems. My iSine 20 are my go-to, but I sometimes want/need an enclosed pair, but I want soundstage as well. My whole reason for getting away from iems years ago was the "in my head" feeling. iSine and less so ZS10 have rid me of that feeling. I love the 64 audio too fourte, but no way I'm spending 2 grand on iems anytime soon, lol.
 
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Yes, KZs are readily available, but their house sound is v shaped. They literally don’t have any IEMs that check all of your boxes - mid centric, good bass, smooth/rolled off treble.

The HDS3 is the only one that would even be somewhat close to your requirement list (it’s a mild v shape, single dynamic micro driver). It’s a great KZ IEM, but the ones on that list above are better.

And pretty much everything they make now is hybrid. And IMO KZs treble implementation is going to be way too hot for you if you are treble sensitive and looking for rolled off treble.
Interesting after comparing a few measurement, Tin audio T2 actually has 'etymotic flat' bass? Slight less mid and extra treble?
 
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Okay guys, This would be the best KZ setup...

Perfect, actually better than anything I have ever heard.

KZ ES4
20ohm adapter from penon(smartphone users)
75ohm adapter dunu(High power amp and DAP users)
Silver cable
Neutraliser(adapter made the tuning even more easier and less distorty)
Viper(spectrum extension to get high end air treble back )

1 word

Amazing.

It is better than AS10, TinAudio T2 and many champion.
Channel imbalance is way better.
Soundstage is correct
Timbre is phenomenal
Sorta made the fuzzy bass(due to its inherited KZ gene and narrow starline) clear.....I mean way clear
Smoother and dammed.....this resolution takes iBasso it01..
Something a little darker than neutral, way more relaxing..bass got control.

If somebody wants the exaggeration, it is somewhat sounding like King Pro and Final E5000 son or daughter....

King pro like bass and E5000 like mids...

And I m serious.

Mother swear.

And if you want a real time comparison..

Way better than AS10 in positional cues and timbre. AS10 has advantage in clarity though.....but the ES4 makes me sleep due to its stage depth and reach
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