[bsoplinger]

Looks like a new model from the 2018 lineup is available. I sent a message to the seller asking if it was in stock or a pre-order and the reply was that pre-order items are not in stock which I took to mean if you can buy it they'll ship it. So grab your 1+1 ES4 today

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...phone-Headset-Earbud/2847025_32870543199.html

 

[DocHoliday]

Yes! That's a big luxury Mercedes against a small Mazda. These Senns are perennial favourites of audiophiles and rightly so (check wall of fame at innerfidelity.com) that deserve their own sophisticated amp/dac combinations, and the ZS10 has received mixed reviews even within its own $40 category.

I hope you are not pulling my leg.

The OP's comments were regarding the ZS10's "tonality". My response was of an inquisitive nature. Why is this an issue for you?

I clearly stated in response to the OP:

I understood your meaning right away (i.e. - hamburger tastes "closer" to steak than chicken ever will).

There was clearly no intention on the OP's comments or my own that the two products are equals or closely related. Just a comment regarding "tonality".

What's with the sh**-stirring?

 

[Otto Motor]

The OP's comments were regarding the ZS10's "tonality". My response was of an inquisitive nature. Why is this an issue for you?

I clearly stated in response to the OP:



There was clearly no intention on the OP's comments or my own that the two products are equals or closely related. Just a comment regarding "tonality".

What's with the sh**-stirring?

It is all good. No bad intentions and all in good sportsmanship. No issue at all, it is just a discussion. As to tonality only, it is very difficult to me to recognize any similarity.

P.S. I re-read the respective paragraphs. Classic misunderstanding. "Closer to...HD6xx...benchmark" does admittedly not imply a comparison. My bad. My brain was focusing on whether the HD6xx is a suitable benchmark. Both together create some endless loop...

 

[Superluc]

Latest ATR&ATE do not use foam in nozzle and both don`t have sibilance. They are detailed with little warmth and good bass extension (but not bassy).

Someone has already try to do a comparison between latest ATR or ATE and ZS10 ?

I wonder if ZS10's signature and tonality are similar to them.

 

[eggnogg]

That's what I tried to describe.


IEMs should not be designed so that contortions are required just to get a decent fit. I mean really KZ? With all the other manufacturers' designs that you've copied couldn't you at least pick good ones?

this trick now always become a habit,
even when dealing with micro driver iem.
those people complain about ZS10 fitting issue need to learn.

 

[F4yze]

Can I get a link to buy it from?

I bought from this seller:
http://s.aliexpress.com/eeM7vQnm?

 

[424358]

I bought from this seller:
http://s.aliexpress.com/eeM7vQnm?

I got the same case in gray. 2 of them. Different listing but same thing. Not advertised as KZ and slightly cheaper. Like $2 shipped each. Man they are small though. I have to tightly pack my ZST but my monk lites fit fine.

Zs5 and ZS6 won’t fit but I have a pelican 1010 for the ZS6 and the Black kz plastic case for zs5 with cheap clips.

 

[groucho69]

Looks like a new model from the 2018 lineup is available. I sent a message to the seller asking if it was in stock or a pre-order and the reply was that pre-order items are not in stock which I took to mean if you can buy it they'll ship it. So grab your 1+1 ES4 today

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...phone-Headset-Earbud/2847025_32870543199.html

can't wait for reviews

 

[bsoplinger]

this trick now always become a habit,
even when dealing with micro driver iem.
those people complain about ZS10 fitting issue need to learn.…

Umm what trick do they need to learn? That your hand can hold 3 pairs of IEMs at a time? Hate to be a spoil sport but pretty much anyone over 5 or 6 could hold 3 pairs of IEMs in their hand. Even if all 3 pairs are the somewhat large bodied ZS10.

 

[rfsux]

 

[Otto Motor]

Someone has already try to do a comparison between latest ATR or ATE and ZS10 ?

I wonder if ZS10's signature and tonality are similar to them.

Difficult comparison. The ZS10 has a way more sophisticated sound construct. Everything is a bit bigger in them...

 

[Aparker2005]

Looks like a new model from the 2018 lineup is available. I sent a message to the seller asking if it was in stock or a pre-order and the reply was that pre-order items are not in stock which I took to mean if you can buy it they'll ship it. So grab your 1+1 ES4 today

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...phone-Headset-Earbud/2847025_32870543199.html

Wonder how these will compare to the ES3? Those are the best ears I've ever owned. My zs10 will be here Monday and if they're any better than that I'll be more than happy. The ES4 being another dual driver though, may not be too much of an upgrade from my beloved ES3.

 

[F4yze]

I got the same case in gray. 2 of them. Different listing but same thing. Not advertised as KZ and slightly cheaper. Like $2 shipped each. Man they are small though. I have to tightly pack my ZST but my monk lites fit fine.

Zs5 and ZS6 won’t fit but I have a pelican 1010 for the ZS6 and the Black kz plastic case for zs5 with cheap clips.

Wouldn't the kz in my listing still be cheaper since it would be about 1usd shipped? I don't doubt it's the same case as on AliExpress, there's multiple sellers selling the same case but in a different box than kz (and more expensive too). However mine fits the zs6 just fine. Snug fit though.

 

[archy121]

I have thd Zero Audio Tenore in my collection - Classic fave.

Can you or anyone else give a comparison against the z10.
EPH100 or Fudue A73 are others that can be compared against.

 

[ChaoticKinesis]

I got my Ostry tips and ended up swapping the S300 filter into the KZ starline tips with the ZS10. Comparing all three Ostry tips with the Yersen filter tips, the Yersens have the most extreme filtering.

At the moment, I think I like the ZS10 with the above filter tip best for metal and the Tin Audio T2 for classical.