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Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread

  1. Slater
    Sure, I agree.

    I’m not saying it’s ideal, nor saying that’s what he does with all of the gear in his lists. But that’s how he’s gaining access to some of it (how much you’ll have to find out from him directly). He’s very respected and knows his stuff, so I’m sure he’s aware of the issue/danger.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
  2. WalterTorino
    If this is a filter, you better not to poke it of course.
    If it is a glue - better to poke it.
    Look closely to the hole.

    Never thought that KZ put filters in a vent holes... 0_o

    Even if you'll poke a filter nothing bad will happen. But if it is really a filter, so Slater is right and you don't need to break something what work properly.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
  3. Slater
    KZ has been using filters on the dynamic driver vent holes for a while now ATE, ATR, ED9, ZS5 (v1 & v2), ZST, ZS6, ZS10, ZSR, etc.

    There’s others but I can’t remember all of them off the top of my head.

    Poking a hole in the front vent filter will change the sound though.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
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  4. Zlivan
    Cable from the second link just arrived and it's pretty good. Soft, almost no microphonics, controls work as expected. Thanks for pointing those out :)

    While on the subject of cables and if anyone's interested, I got myself a nice clothed mmcx cable with volume control also: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Aipinchun-Soft-Earphone-Cable-With-Volume-Controller-Replacement-for-MMCX-Headphone-for-Shure-SE215-SE315-SE425/32848846227.html
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  5. Strat Rider
    Lookin good Mr Slater, the secret mod looks good, but the zs10 looks too similar to be a "new" or different sound sig.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
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  6. DocHoliday
    Wish we had something similar here in the states. BestBuy is the only location we have here in sunny Northern California and their selection is lousy overpriced crap. My Superlux 668b outclasses everything on display. It would be worth a trip to Asia just to spend some quality time sampling higher tier gear. I'd literally spend several days just to get a clearer view of the IEM landscape.

    I know myself well enough, though. I'd much rather pour thousands into transforming something like this

    ....into something like this:

    The guy is asking $12k (top photo) and I can probably talk him into $9,500 cash in hand.

    I'm content collecting KZ's and the like because there are some incredible backroads and coastal blacktop that deserve my attention; California ribbon that I won't get to explore in some heavy metal if I head down another expensive rabbit hole.

    Just an issue of how much cash is allocated to each hobby.

    Because KZ exists I can do both.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
  7. nkramer
    certainly looks like the ZS10 a huge step in the right direction. :thumbsup:
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  8. Slater
    I can’t say how similar or different it is until I hear it for myself and measure it on my own rig. But yeah, since KZ is using combinations of the same drivers in many of these IEMs, they are somewhat limited in how different they can even sound.

    For example, the ZSR has most of the same drivers as the ZS5 and ZS6, which is why it sounds “similar”. Not exactly the same, but similar. I’m sure a lot of people are going to jump on me for making that comment. But the reality is that there’s only so many minor sound combinations you can make by using the same 10mm driver, and mashups of the same 2 BA drivers, right?

    Of course the shell design and vents contribute to the end result.

    In the past, they used many different drivers between models, which is why the ATE sounds so different from the EDR1, and the ED9 sounds so different from the HDS3.

    I would really like KZ to go back to using different drivers, like graphene and biofiber. And varied shell materials, like the copper body of the ED9 or the wood body of the ED7.

    I mean, they have yet to make a ‘proper’ wood bodied IEM (like the Magaosi BK50 or VJJB K4) and I know it would sell well.

    Perhaps some of these reasons are why employees left KZ and founded TRN, just like employees left Audio Technica and founded KZ.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
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  9. groucho69
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  10. DocHoliday
    I've been wanting KZ to design a top notch dynamic driver. I was hoping that this model would fill the the void in KZ's lineup but it clearly states "Hybrid Technology".

    By the way, I was unaware of the TRN-Knowledge Zenith tie-in but it makes sense.
  11. CoiL
    YZ63 is on my watch list also. Its shape kinda reminds me my VE NUN-mod I did long time back.
    Big ~16mm dynamic strapped on my ear - only thinking about it makes me feel better ;D
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  12. Saoshyant
    @DocHoliday You reminded me of how much I hate coastal route 1. Might be nice if I hadn't been driving, but wow it's awful for me as the driver. 5 hours to go 100 miles.
  13. DocHoliday
    Yeah.....the best way to do it is to stop here for lunch, stop there to put your toes in the sand, take in the scent of the ocean breeze and so on. A nonstop point to point (100 mile trek) when you have to be somewhere makes it difficult to enjoy. The girlfriend gets carsick on the winding bits so when we pull in to a sandy beach area I have to throw her over my shoulder to get down to the shoreline.

    No KZ's along for the ride, though; only clean and clear Infinity's.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
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  14. Saoshyant
    Yeah, I got talked into it because a buddy wanted to see. Not my ideal way to get to Monterey.
  15. Prim8NChief
    Anybody here know what size tips I need for KZ ZST? Is it a 5 mm? I'm looking at these New Bees. Are these the correct size?

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