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Kennerton ODIN, MAGISTER, VALI, Magni, Thridi, Thekk, and Thror Discussion

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by bowei006, Sep 1, 2014.
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  1. Bastianpp
    i hope the tror don't sound too much neutral or bright... but i prefer neutral than a bright headphone..
     
  2. eric65
    I do not think: see also:

    An another presentation of the FR of these 3 headphones Kennerton planar :

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    Kennerton Odin (mk1): http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=713&page=hp-kennerton-odin


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    Kennerton Odin mk3: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=1343&page=hp-kennerton-odin-mk3


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    Kennerton Thror: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=1344&page=hp-kennerton-thror
     
  3. Bastianpp
    well that look good, the only thing i don't like it is the middle treble could be -1dB or -0.8dB, but look better :).
     
  4. eric65
  5. Bastianpp
    i have t5p mk2, that are my street headphone... but i have a plan of change the pad for a Alpha dog pads.
    With that T5P MK2 get more smooth FR.
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    But Tror cost 3500 and it's open at my home i have different expectation about a headphone, i'm curious about a '' vs '' between my EFO and TROR
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
  6. eric65
    To summarize.

    Kennerton Thror versus Kennerton Odin (and a little bit the new Kennerton Odin mk3) versus Kennerton Vali versus Sennheiser HD-600 (as reference for the FR)

    First of all: Kennerton Thror versus my amazing (and loved) Kennerton Odin mk2 (weight, look, FR)

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    Kennerton Thror weight


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    Kennerton Odin mk2 weight


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    Kennerton Thror (left) wooden in Bog oak and Kennerton Odin mk2 (right) (a rare copie wooden in Karelian birch)


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    Kennerton Odin mk2 FR


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    Kennerton Thror FR (prototype)


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    Kennerton Odin Vs Kennerton Thror FR


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    Kennerton Odin Vs the new Kennerton Odin mk3 (Thridi)


    General results Kennerton Thror
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by voltage: 108.97 dB/V SPL
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by power: 95.30 dB/mW SPL
    Average impedance : 42.99 ohm

    General results Kennerton Odin MK3
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by voltage: 110.50 dB/V SPL
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by power: 96.89 dB/mW SPL
    Average impedance : 43.57 ohm

    General results Kennerton Odin
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by voltage: 110.50 dB/V SPL
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by power: 95.97 dB/mW SPL
    Average impedance : 35.26 ohm

    General results Kennerton Vali
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by voltage: 113.91 dB/V SPL
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by power: 100.41 dB/mW SPL
    Average impedance : 44.71 ohm

    General results Sennheiser HD 600
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by voltage: 105.10 dB/V SPL
    Sensitivity F.A.Q. by power: 100.57 dB/mW SPL
    Average impedance : 352.18 ohm


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    Kennerton Odin : http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=713&page=hp-kennerton-odin


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    Kennerton Odin mk3: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=1343&page=hp-kennerton-odin-mk3


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    Kennerton Thror: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=1344&page=hp-kennerton-thror


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    Kennerton Vali: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=714&page=hp-kennerton-vali


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    Sennheiser HD-600: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=819&page=hp-sennheiser-hd-600
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
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  7. Taverius
    Beyer Dynamic ... no more treble mountaineering for me, thanks!

    Thror FR looks nice, unfortunately the CSDs on that site are unreadable, and I don't see a distortion graph.
     
  8. eric65
    Yes, we can't see for the moment the distortion graph for these new and old Kennerton planar headphones.

    We have just a qualitative assessment of the bass of these headphones by Hardcorist (Max) on the russian forum giving us an indirect indication of the distortions.
    Link : http://player.ru/showthread.php?t=142284&page=107&p=2465936&viewfull=1#post2465936

    Here an approximate translation (I am not Russian-speaking):
    "But there is a difference in perception (for bass). And it is conditioned by temporal characteristics. If Odin Mk1 bass is more imposing, the impulse calms down longer, and on hearing it is perceived as more fatty.
    Bass of novelties (Thror and Odin mk3) is faster, with better control.
    Therefore, on hearing it seems drier.
    Well, the new headphones have slightly better transient characteristics. Meander a little prettier and cleaner."
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
  9. eric65
    Relative FR of several headphones adjusted to the hinge frequency of 300 Hz; each division represents 6 dB.
    Source of these relative measures of FR: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/

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    HD600 Vs HD800 FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    HD600 Vs Vali FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    HD600 Vs Odin FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    HD600 Vs Odin mk3 FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    HD600 Vs Thror FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    HD600 Vs Odin mk3 Vs Thror FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    Vali Vs Odin FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    Vali Vs Odin mk3 FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    Vali Vs Thror FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    Odin Vs Odin mk3 FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    Odin Vs Thror FR (300 Hz adjustement)


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    Odin mk3 Vs Thror FR (300 Hz adjustement)
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
  10. Kennerton Team
    Just want to point out that original Kennerton Odin measured there was the one of the first bunch. So the larger bass decline partly explained by old ear cushions used on original Odin.
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
  11. eric65
    Yes the Odin mk1 (with the V1 pads), as the very first Odin mk2 (with the the same V1 pads), have more perforations (less sealing ?) than the current Odin mk2, more late, as well as the new Odin mk3 (and also the Thror), who all use the new pads V2 containing less perforations (with more sealing ?).

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    Left: Kennerton Odin V2 earpads (new pads for Odin mk2, Odin mk3 and a priori also the Thror) ; right : Kennerton Odin V1 earpads (old pads for Odin mk1 and the first version of the Odin mk2) (earlier)
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
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  12. eric65
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    Odin mk1 vs Odin mk3 Vs Thror FR (300 Hz adjustment)
    (Nb: alignment of the curves at the frequency 300 Hz) (Nb bis: the vertical scale of the dB is enlarged to better differentiate the curves: each graduation represents 6 dB)

    Otherwise, seen on another Russian forum.

    Thror or Abyss, what is the best technically?
    Probably the Abyss. :)
    Which one should I choose?
    Probably the Thror. :beyersmile:
    http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post179531810.html#p179531810
     
  13. etnt
    The best is what you ears prefer.

    I'd heard the Thror but I'm still an Odin guy.
     
  14. eric65
    That's true ! :)

    I love my Odin mk2 (especially with the V1 pads and the Vectura C cable in Litz wire), both on the Viva 2A3 amp and on the XI audio Formula S amp; it's a very addictive headphone and I would never part with it!

    Thror is more technical, also straighter and more neutral. Let's say that it is an headphone complementary to the Odin to listen to classical music on large orchestral ensembles, with more precision in the placement of instruments, more resolution and perhaps a better tone and timbres more faithful to the instruments (piano and violin in particular); it is also more interesting for electronic music (better sub-bass extensions).

    The ideal being to have both headphones if you are a little perfectionist; but for pure pleasure, the Odin mk2 is a great headphone, more fun, and very pleasant to listen to; much more for example than my ex Stax SR-009 that bored me a bit.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2018
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  15. eric65
    Hello everyone,

    Seen on Kennerton's Facebook site a new Kennerton Headphone Stand with this mention: " A good companion for Odin (and other headphones as well), Kennerton Huginn stand. Durable glass and natural oak. Do you like it? "

    https://www.facebook.com/KennertonAudioEquipment/

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    You'll recognize at first glance the very impressive and beautiful Kennerton Odin mk2 wooden in Pale Moon Ebony with the new Kennerton Custom Litz Cable (the same as the one sold with the Thror), in more of this beautiful new Stand in natural oak wood and smoked glass of black color. Very nice set! :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2018
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