Kennerton ODIN, MAGISTER, VALI, Magni, Gjallarhorn, Rögnir, Thridi, Wodan, Thekk, and Thror Discussion.
May 23, 2021 at 5:59 AM Post #5,071 of 10,015
What are the differences of these Rögnir versions build wise? There isn't any mention of versions in their website so could it be only different pads?

Hi

From what I understand, these are only differences in the ear pads: ear pads with the same thickness, but perforated for the alternative pads and not perforated for the stock ear pads.

The change of ear pads greatly modifies the frequency response of the Rögnir, as shown on these two FR curves.
A more V-shaped frequency response (with more bass) with the ear pads non-perforated in stock, and a flatter, straighter frequency response with the alternative perforated ear pads.

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Alternative perforated ear pads for the Rögnir
Source: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/kennerton-odin-magister-vali-magni-gjallarhorn-rögnir-thridi-wodan-thekk-and-thror-discussion.732814/page-334#post-16355142

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Version I of the Rögnir (with alternative ear pads, perforated) (more "straight" and "right").



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Version II of the Rögnir (with stock ear pads, not perforated) (more bass, more fun and V-shaped).
 
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May 23, 2021 at 6:30 AM Post #5,072 of 10,015
What are the differences of these Rögnir versions build wise? There isn't any mention of versions in their website so could it be only different pads?
Forwarded this question on dastereo.
 
May 23, 2021 at 9:41 AM Post #5,073 of 10,015
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Much to celebrate
Valentin Kazanzhi founder creator of Kennerton at his B day celebration
One day would love to shake his hand and sincerely thank him for creating Kennerton
 
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May 23, 2021 at 9:47 AM Post #5,074 of 10,015
Hi

From what I understand, these are only differences in the ear pads: ear pads with the same thickness, but perforated for the alternative pads and not perforated for the stock ear pads.

The change of ear pads greatly modifies the frequency response of the Rögnir, as shown on these two FR curves.
A more V-shaped frequency response (with more bass) with the ear pads non-perforated in stock, and a flatter, straighter frequency response with the alternative perforated ear pads.

11493087_thumb.jpeg

Alternative perforated ear pads for the Rögnir
Source: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/kennerton-odin-magister-vali-magni-gjallarhorn-rögnir-thridi-wodan-thekk-and-thror-discussion.732814/page-334#post-16355142

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Version I of the Rögnir (with alternative ear pads, perforated) (more "straight" and "right").



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Version II of the Rögnir (with stock ear pads, not perforated) (more bass, more fun and V-shaped).
I definitely don't see the perforated pads providing that special sauce of the non.

Have you heard of the JZ pads? These are seemingly thinner but purportedly from memory foam, increase staging.
 
May 23, 2021 at 1:33 PM Post #5,075 of 10,015
For those who have Rögnirs, how is the fit? Ears not hitting drivers? Still enjoying them? I am contemplating on trading my Stellias for Rögnirs and wonder if someone has experiences with both?
 
May 23, 2021 at 1:38 PM Post #5,076 of 10,015
For those who have Rögnirs, how is the fit? Ears not hitting drivers? Still enjoying them? I am contemplating on trading my Stellias for Rögnirs and wonder if someone has experiences with both?

I think the fit is going to be a hit/miss thing. My ears do feel cramped and it is an annoyance but the comfort is actually quite nice.

Something I think I fail to appreciate seeing all the headphones I run through and most I keep are, well, cumbersome if not heavy.

What I personally like is the lack of clamp force.
 
May 23, 2021 at 5:57 PM Post #5,077 of 10,015
I've been spending most of my listening hours with the HP-2/Gjallarhorn now and man that one changes over time! out of the box it was harsh, lifeless and the bass was lacking. I let it play music over night the last 3 days so getting about ~ 50 hours on them now and man did they change! I'm still not 100% happy with the treble and I'm going the DIY JM road (ordered some furniture dots).

Perhaps the same can be said for the HP-Diamond though the Diamond never offended me. My ears and the HP-Diamond agree on everything so far. I prefer the hp-diamond to the likes of the Stax SR-007mk2, LSA HP-1, Focal Clear and DCA Ether C flow 1.1
 
May 23, 2021 at 8:51 PM Post #5,079 of 10,015
To Frabera (& other readers): burning in is essential to getting what the Gjallarhorn / Gjallarhorn JM Edition has to offer. Also essential is John Massaria’s guidance on gradual headband adjustments to increase the earpad clamp force augmenting bass extension and response. I have been a very happy owner of the ‘JMs’ for about a year and the JMs are my favourite all-around headphone: bass / midrange / treble...detail / imaging / soundstage...ambience / dynamic range / vocals. No real weakness in any area; some headphones have particular strengths but the JMs’ gestalt is not matched in my experience. Like my next favourite headphone (modified Sennheiser HD-600s), the JMs scale upwards with gusto as the “supporting cast” improves. I cannot “throw” too much DAC, hp amplifier, and hp cable to the JMs. If you own either, do your Gjallarhorn or JM a favour: upgrade their “upstream” companions.
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May 24, 2021 at 4:48 AM Post #5,080 of 10,015
May 24, 2021 at 8:58 AM Post #5,082 of 10,015
Thanks, Eric, you spot my posts faster, than I can translate them here ))

I visited Hi-Fi & High End Show (Moscow) yesterday and first of all - the Kennerton section. I listened to ROGNIR and WODAN, with whom I was not previously familiar. I took a laptop and a Chord TT with me for more familiar listening conditions.

ROGNIR. 2 versions could be heard at the show. To be honest, after Thekk, which I did not really like, ROGNIR listening session started with great doubts. Which, much to my relief, did not come true. I liked both versions overall. Please take into account when reading the review below )
Do you mind elaborate a bit on why you don’t like the Thekk? It’s the only higher-end Kennerton I don’t have and I’m weighting on opinions about it.
 
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May 24, 2021 at 9:40 AM Post #5,084 of 10,015
From what I understand, these are only differences in the ear pads: ear pads with the same thickness, but perforated for the alternative pads and not perforated for the stock ear pads.
Differences:
- different damping (no more details here as far).
- more neutral version (karelian birch on photos above) - memory foam pads; bass-heavy version (bubinga) - regular pads

Initial version had more bass, Kennerton team liked it, but measuments were not good, so they made more neutral balanced (and obviously with better measurments) version.
 
May 24, 2021 at 9:42 AM Post #5,085 of 10,015
Do you mind elaborate a bit on why you don’t like the Thekk? It’s the only higher-end Kennerton I don’t have and I’m weighting on opinions about it.
Yeah he is the only person I've ever read that didn't like the Thekk. I won't answer your question to him for him but I have read his reasoning. I don't hear what he hears at all. It is the best headphone I have. And I have some good ones.
 

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