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Is anyone else doing this with their 701s? Need more impressions..
Is anyone else doing this with their 701s? Need more impressions..
Is anyone else doing this with their 701s? Need more impressions..
Is anyone else doing this with their 701s? Need more impressions..
i've just got a used pair of k701's (at an amazing price)
initially disappointed > got an amp > 10x better > tried out a combination of dac's and amps > made judgements > allowed friends to listen (non audiophiles- but their opinion matched mine without me telling them what to think/hear) > happy with sound quality, but think there is scope for improvement
I got the headphones mainly for gaming, I'm listening to more and more music though and was slightly concerned that they wouldn't be 'musical' enough or have enough bass (I also considered philips fidellio x1's and sennheisedr 598/650's)
was pleasantly surprised with the bass, knew the soundstage was going to be awesome though
if you want to hear my thoughts on the amp pairings then they can be found in this thread
http://www.head-fi.org/t/676684/software-eq-to-make-up-for-headphone-deficiency#post_9704988
but to summarize:
audioengine d1: fantastic clarity, doesn't push the bass up so 'bass light' phones like the k701 sound weak
fiio e17: not as much clarity as d1, but better bass (and tone controls)
fiio e12: best bass of the lot, delivers sub bass with the bass boost enabled, nice sound but as an amp only it depends on the source that feeds it
fiio e12+audioengine d1: good clarity, better bass, but something just doesn't work for me here- flawless for gaming though, the detail in unreal
fiio e12+ e17: warmer, more bass, but not magical
fiio e12+ xonar u3 gaming card (a cheap usb sound card for gaming): surprisingly my favorite combination, lacking clarity and top end, muddy midrange, but a thick warm sound that is very musical and very pleasing, my friend agreed (he said the d1 through the e12 had more detail, but he prefered the sound of the u3+e12, and also just going straight out the samsung galaxy headphone output and through the e12- he noticed how bad it sounded ran through the samsung without the amp)
so i'm fairly happy with the e12 as an amp, and although the d1 is clearly a capable dac (don't like the headphone amp though) I think I would like to return the D1 and the fiio e17, and use the e12 just with the xonar u3 until I find a better DAC/amp combo that keeps the rich warmth, but adds in some sparkle and clarity
I might end up keeping the d1 though for gaming use as it's so good (and has spdif input), I might keep the e12 as a portable (but I don't listen to music on portable players outside the house, and I certainly won't take my k701's out the house), but either way my options (and time is running out for returns) are:
1) keep audio engine d1 as DAC, return everything else, pair with very warm amp (possibly a tube amp?) or switch audioengine d1 for a JDS odac for more performance and less money (lose spdif input but not a deal breaker)
2) return everything, and invest in great all in one DAC/amp- thinking of breaking the bank for a woo wa7 (most expensive but my god it's beautiful), or a schitt valhalla (don't mind spending money on something that looks great as well as sounds great)
3) keep d1 + e12 and k701's for gaming, get new headphones for music (fidellio x1's? or sennheiser 598/650) and see if they're better with the d1 (possibly a big expensive mistake...)
4) xonar u3 and e12, be happy and keep using until find something better, don't rush into something now (but I have the money right now, might not have so much to spend in 6 months time)
so what do you think- are tubes the way forward?
or is it as simple as software eq for one of the combinations I already have
Tubes and K701...not sure. IMHO a good solid state with low output impedance would be better. What you have now certainly doesn't bring them to their full potential. If you game a lot, then you should maybe get a sound card. Something like Asus ST will power the K701 extremely well and bring them close to full potential, I dont really hear any difference when moving up to Musical Fidelity M1DAC and Little Dot MkV, which is a 1100 dollar combo. You can put better opamps inside for better matching of sound signatures. Plus you would get all the dolby and surround features, something once you get used to, you wont be able to watch movies or play games without. Its definitely the most cost effective and by far the best sounding solution for music and games. That was you can use the ST as a DAC and amp for games and movies with dolby headphone, and you can also it purely as a DAC with the Fiio E12 if you find it sounds better than ST's headphone amp, which I highly doubt based on my comparisons with much more expensive amps than E12.
Tubes sound great with the 701s. I used a Singlepower Extreme Platinum for years with them and was very happy with it. Tubes take the edge off a strident SS source.
The Ks maximum recommended power (AKG site) says 200 mw or .2 watts. I'd suggest a bit more for peaks. Like say 500 mw or .5 watts.
I personally don't like the E12 with the K 701 too much. Objective 2 and JDS Labs C5 sound muuuuch cleaner, more spacious, and overall just sweep the E12 in terms of overall sound. The E12 sounds rather bright next to the two.
Tubes sound great with the 701s. I used a Singlepower Extreme Platinum for years with them and was very happy with it. Tubes take the edge off a strident SS source.
The Ks maximum recommended power (AKG site) says 200 mw or .2 watts. I'd suggest a bit more for peaks. Like say 500 mw or .5 watts.
Hi all,
Now that I'm rediscovering my love for the K701, I was wondering if anyone tried changing their pads to the memory foam K702 65th Anniversary Edition ear pads? If you have, is it worth doing? Does it change the sound quality significantly? Does it bring it to the level of the K702 65th Anniversary Edition (afterall, I have heard from lots of people that all the K70X headphones all share the same drivers and enclosures but just different ear pads)?
Thanks for your time!