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Ordered K601 three days ago, probably will be in my hand in five days.
Background:
I have CDP Panasonic SL-CT810 for years, but never put any decent headphones on it. Creative Zen(4G) is my first MP3 player, I want to hear something really good from it.
So, I plan to buy hi-fi headphones under the hard-to-resist Head-fi.org's seducement.
But I plan to return Zen tomorrow for I see too much negative comments on Zen here, though I myself would not notice any defects without Head-fiers comparing it with D2. And yes, after receiving my K601, I am gonna order D2. Another hard-to-resist player based on Head-fiers comment, huh? I hate this place, but mostly hate myself spending money for others views. But, I like to spend for sound.
I like the D2 Max Output : 37mW + 37mW, guess no problem driving my K601(120 ohms), though cannot fully develop the value of it. Anyway I do not plan to spend money + time + carring for additional amps which will probably do less improvement for the sound pleasure of my K601 than I wish. (I saw the "amps are overrated" thread.)
But, probably, I will change my mind tomorrow on the amps, for I am planning to take advantage of the Panasonic CDP, which has only 6 mW + 6 mW output and definately needs an amp to drive my K601(Though this player has line-out which might provide more power). But I do not like to use CD-RW to feed it with WAV songs in my laptop.
I do not like HD MP3 players for I hate the noising and shaking.
I do not want a iPod flash-memory player for lack of features, even the SQ is good for some iPODers. I really need voice recording and FM. (I know Apple can add then on but for extra money and extra weight.)
I do not want Clix2 for it don't handle WAV, which I might need for full kHzs musics.
So, I will choose D2. But probably not if I hear too much negative comments on the analytical sound and no line-out. Well, I really don't know.
I list SPECIFICATIONS for K601, D2, Zen, SL-CT810 below for viewers reference:
K601 SPECIFICATIONS:
Headphones weight without cable (g) 235
Sensitivity (dB/mW, dB/V*) 101
Audio bandwidth (Hz to kHz) 12-39,5
Max. input power (mW) 200
Rated impedance (ohms) 120
Convertible jack plug (1/4" to 1/8")
Replaceable ear pads
Patented self-adjusting headband
Exclusive leather headband
Unbreakable metal arches
99.99% oxygen-free cable (length in m) 3
Single-sided cable
Hard gold-plated jack plug and contacts
Patented Varimotion diaphragms
2-Layer diaphragm
Open-back, dynamic headphones
NdFe magnets
Suited for (SA)CD, DVD(A), DAT
D2 SPECIFICATIONS
Playback
format Music MP3 : MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3, ~320kbps, ~48khz, mono/stereo
WMA : ~256kbps, ~48khz, mono/stereo
OGG : ~Q10, ~44.1khz, mono/stereo
FLAC : Compression Level 0 ~ 8, ~44.1khz, mono/stereo
WAV : ~48khz, 16bit, mono/stereo
APE: Y
JetEffect (BBE, Mach3Bass, MP Enhance, 3D Surround, Stereo Enhance) support
Movie AVI : MPEG4 ~ 2Mbps, 320x240, 30fps, MP3 audio
WMV : WMV9 ~ 768kbps, 320x240, 30fps, WMA audio
TV OUT support (TV OUT Cable Optional)
Recording WMA : 32~256kbps Recording and Playback
Voice Recording, Line-In Recording, External MIC support
Photo JPG, No limitation on image size and capacity
Text TXT file Viewer
Support up to 2MB
Folder Limit 500 folders and 5,000 files
Radio support FM RADIO : 76Mhz ~ 108Mhz, 87.5Mhz ~ 108Mhz
WMA : 32~256kbps recording support
Display 2.5 inch 16 million color(24bit) TFT-LCD : QVGA (320x240) Touchscreen
Built-in memory 2GB, 4GB, 8GB
External SD Card and MMC Card Slot
PC interface USB 2.0 High Speed
File transfer speed Max. 35Mbps (Upload 40Mbps)
Power Up to 52 hours (Music) of continuous playback (Movie 10 hours)
Charge time About 3.5 hours by adapter, About 7 hours by USB
Button 3 Button(MENU, VOL-, VOL+), POWER & HOLD Switch
SNR 95dB (A-Weighted)
Frequency Range 20Hz~20KHz
Max Output 16 Ohm earphone : 37mW + 37mW
Size 3.07 X 2.18 X 0.65 inches (78.0 X 55.4 X 16.6 mm)
Weight 3.21 oz (91 g) (Include Lithium Polymer battery)
Zen SPECIFICATIONS:
Size WxHxD: 3.26" x 2.16" x 0.44"
Weight: 2.1 oz
Display: 2.5" High resolution color TFT display (320 x 240 pixels, 16.7 million color support)
Storage Capacity1: 4GB (1,000 songs or 15 hours of video)
Battery Life2: Up to 30 hours of continuous audio playback
Up to 5 hours of continuous video playback
Audio Playback Format: MP3, WMA, non-protected AAC, WAV and Audible 2,3 and 4
Photo Format: JPEG and (with transcoding - GIF, TIFF, PNG and BMP)
Video Playback Format: MJPEG, WMV9 and (with transcoding - MPEG1 and 2, MPEG4-SP, DivX 4 and 5 and XviD)
Organizer: Syncs with and views Microsoft Outlook® Contacts, Calendar & Tasks
Features: Album Art
FM radio with 32 presets
Voice recorder
Clock and alarm function
Volume restriction
Customizable main menu
Functions as an external hard drive
8 EQ settings (Acoustic, classical, disco, jazz, new age, pop, rock and vocal)
Panasonic SL-CT810 SPECIFICATIONS:
Audio (CD-DA)
Sampling frequency: 44.1 kHz
No. of channels: 2 (left and right, stereo)
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz(i0.5 dB to j8 dB)
Headphone output level: RMS max. 6 mWi6 mW/16 ≠ (adjustable)
Pickup
Light source: Semiconductor laser
Wavelength: 780 nm
WMA/MP3
Supported bit-rates:
WMA: 32 kbps to 320 kbps (64 kbps is recommended)
MP3: 32 kbps to 320 kbps (128 kbps is recommended)
Supported sampling frequency:48 kHz/44.1 kHz/32 kHz
Maximum number of items
(total no. of albums and tracks): 999
Maximum album levels: 100
General
Power supply:
DC input (via included AC adaptor): DC 4.5 V
AC adaptor input: AC 120 V 60 Hz
Power consumption: Using AC adaptor (WMA/MP3/CD-DA):2.6 W/2.6 W/2.6 W
Recharging: 5.5 W
Play time:
WMA--200
MP3--188
CD-DA--120
Recharging time: about 5 to 6 hours
≥The play time may be less depending on the operating conditions.
≥Play time will be considerably reduced when playing CD-RW.
Operational temperature range: 0 eC–40 eC (32 eF–104 eF)
Rechargeable temperature range: 5 eC–40 eC (41 eF–104 eF)
Dimensions (WaHaD): 134.4a14.4a133.5 mm (59/32za9/16za51/4z)
Mass: 195 g (6.9 oz) (with batteries) 145 g (5.1 oz) (without batteries)
Background:
I have CDP Panasonic SL-CT810 for years, but never put any decent headphones on it. Creative Zen(4G) is my first MP3 player, I want to hear something really good from it.
So, I plan to buy hi-fi headphones under the hard-to-resist Head-fi.org's seducement.
But I plan to return Zen tomorrow for I see too much negative comments on Zen here, though I myself would not notice any defects without Head-fiers comparing it with D2. And yes, after receiving my K601, I am gonna order D2. Another hard-to-resist player based on Head-fiers comment, huh? I hate this place, but mostly hate myself spending money for others views. But, I like to spend for sound.
I like the D2 Max Output : 37mW + 37mW, guess no problem driving my K601(120 ohms), though cannot fully develop the value of it. Anyway I do not plan to spend money + time + carring for additional amps which will probably do less improvement for the sound pleasure of my K601 than I wish. (I saw the "amps are overrated" thread.)
But, probably, I will change my mind tomorrow on the amps, for I am planning to take advantage of the Panasonic CDP, which has only 6 mW + 6 mW output and definately needs an amp to drive my K601(Though this player has line-out which might provide more power). But I do not like to use CD-RW to feed it with WAV songs in my laptop.
I do not like HD MP3 players for I hate the noising and shaking.
I do not want a iPod flash-memory player for lack of features, even the SQ is good for some iPODers. I really need voice recording and FM. (I know Apple can add then on but for extra money and extra weight.)
I do not want Clix2 for it don't handle WAV, which I might need for full kHzs musics.
So, I will choose D2. But probably not if I hear too much negative comments on the analytical sound and no line-out. Well, I really don't know.
I list SPECIFICATIONS for K601, D2, Zen, SL-CT810 below for viewers reference:
K601 SPECIFICATIONS:
Headphones weight without cable (g) 235
Sensitivity (dB/mW, dB/V*) 101
Audio bandwidth (Hz to kHz) 12-39,5
Max. input power (mW) 200
Rated impedance (ohms) 120
Convertible jack plug (1/4" to 1/8")
Replaceable ear pads
Patented self-adjusting headband
Exclusive leather headband
Unbreakable metal arches
99.99% oxygen-free cable (length in m) 3
Single-sided cable
Hard gold-plated jack plug and contacts
Patented Varimotion diaphragms
2-Layer diaphragm
Open-back, dynamic headphones
NdFe magnets
Suited for (SA)CD, DVD(A), DAT
D2 SPECIFICATIONS
Playback
format Music MP3 : MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3, ~320kbps, ~48khz, mono/stereo
WMA : ~256kbps, ~48khz, mono/stereo
OGG : ~Q10, ~44.1khz, mono/stereo
FLAC : Compression Level 0 ~ 8, ~44.1khz, mono/stereo
WAV : ~48khz, 16bit, mono/stereo
APE: Y
JetEffect (BBE, Mach3Bass, MP Enhance, 3D Surround, Stereo Enhance) support
Movie AVI : MPEG4 ~ 2Mbps, 320x240, 30fps, MP3 audio
WMV : WMV9 ~ 768kbps, 320x240, 30fps, WMA audio
TV OUT support (TV OUT Cable Optional)
Recording WMA : 32~256kbps Recording and Playback
Voice Recording, Line-In Recording, External MIC support
Photo JPG, No limitation on image size and capacity
Text TXT file Viewer
Support up to 2MB
Folder Limit 500 folders and 5,000 files
Radio support FM RADIO : 76Mhz ~ 108Mhz, 87.5Mhz ~ 108Mhz
WMA : 32~256kbps recording support
Display 2.5 inch 16 million color(24bit) TFT-LCD : QVGA (320x240) Touchscreen
Built-in memory 2GB, 4GB, 8GB
External SD Card and MMC Card Slot
PC interface USB 2.0 High Speed
File transfer speed Max. 35Mbps (Upload 40Mbps)
Power Up to 52 hours (Music) of continuous playback (Movie 10 hours)
Charge time About 3.5 hours by adapter, About 7 hours by USB
Button 3 Button(MENU, VOL-, VOL+), POWER & HOLD Switch
SNR 95dB (A-Weighted)
Frequency Range 20Hz~20KHz
Max Output 16 Ohm earphone : 37mW + 37mW
Size 3.07 X 2.18 X 0.65 inches (78.0 X 55.4 X 16.6 mm)
Weight 3.21 oz (91 g) (Include Lithium Polymer battery)
Zen SPECIFICATIONS:
Size WxHxD: 3.26" x 2.16" x 0.44"
Weight: 2.1 oz
Display: 2.5" High resolution color TFT display (320 x 240 pixels, 16.7 million color support)
Storage Capacity1: 4GB (1,000 songs or 15 hours of video)
Battery Life2: Up to 30 hours of continuous audio playback
Up to 5 hours of continuous video playback
Audio Playback Format: MP3, WMA, non-protected AAC, WAV and Audible 2,3 and 4
Photo Format: JPEG and (with transcoding - GIF, TIFF, PNG and BMP)
Video Playback Format: MJPEG, WMV9 and (with transcoding - MPEG1 and 2, MPEG4-SP, DivX 4 and 5 and XviD)
Organizer: Syncs with and views Microsoft Outlook® Contacts, Calendar & Tasks
Features: Album Art
FM radio with 32 presets
Voice recorder
Clock and alarm function
Volume restriction
Customizable main menu
Functions as an external hard drive
8 EQ settings (Acoustic, classical, disco, jazz, new age, pop, rock and vocal)
Panasonic SL-CT810 SPECIFICATIONS:
Audio (CD-DA)
Sampling frequency: 44.1 kHz
No. of channels: 2 (left and right, stereo)
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz(i0.5 dB to j8 dB)
Headphone output level: RMS max. 6 mWi6 mW/16 ≠ (adjustable)
Pickup
Light source: Semiconductor laser
Wavelength: 780 nm
WMA/MP3
Supported bit-rates:
WMA: 32 kbps to 320 kbps (64 kbps is recommended)
MP3: 32 kbps to 320 kbps (128 kbps is recommended)
Supported sampling frequency:48 kHz/44.1 kHz/32 kHz
Maximum number of items
(total no. of albums and tracks): 999
Maximum album levels: 100
General
Power supply:
DC input (via included AC adaptor): DC 4.5 V
AC adaptor input: AC 120 V 60 Hz
Power consumption: Using AC adaptor (WMA/MP3/CD-DA):2.6 W/2.6 W/2.6 W
Recharging: 5.5 W
Play time:
WMA--200
MP3--188
CD-DA--120
Recharging time: about 5 to 6 hours
≥The play time may be less depending on the operating conditions.
≥Play time will be considerably reduced when playing CD-RW.
Operational temperature range: 0 eC–40 eC (32 eF–104 eF)
Rechargeable temperature range: 5 eC–40 eC (41 eF–104 eF)
Dimensions (WaHaD): 134.4a14.4a133.5 mm (59/32za9/16za51/4z)
Mass: 195 g (6.9 oz) (with batteries) 145 g (5.1 oz) (without batteries)