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JH Audio Layla Impressions Thread

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  1. rantng
    I’ve always loved Angie (owned Angie I & FMJ Angie II, Rosie & Roxanne), but never could get a proper fit due to the large shells. I’d love a smaller Angie, but not at a significant price markup. I currently have a secondhand Angie CIEM I’m planning on getting reshelled.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2019
  2. stacey
    Yeah, any high ticket electronic I'll rather pick up in November for that very reason. But Layla is at the point that I'd doubt one can make it sound better.

    So will this configuration be applied to the custom builds?
     
  3. fiascogarcia
    I would think it's like the Fourtes, where the acoustic chambers are a fixed shape, size and placement with the drivers, making it really difficult if not impossible to conform to custom shell shapes. IMO

    Note: I take the above comment back, as it looks like drivers and chambers are all part of a self contained chassis which fits within the shell. The Fourte shell is actual part of the acoustic chamber, I believe. So maybe the Laylas chassis could, in fact, be fit within custom shells.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2019
  4. pstickne
    Although I NEVER bought this argument, as a tip is still needed - so why not just sell custom silicon tips / custom full silicon encasements?

    “Perfect fit” of the same core casing, using custom molds. If this was ‘the’ way the IEMs were used, the case could also be better refined to fit into such as it would be ‘covered’ - eg. as per update: thinner, pulled back (not rounded) when possible, attachment points.

    One can always get aftermarket custom tips and some CIEMs are already silicon - why not just make it part of the $overpriced$ package, with better suitability? It could even come with universal fit adapter for standard tips, or a few ‘universal fit’ silicon molds.. those are pennies to produce.

    (Reason: I’m not in charge.)

    :shrug:
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2019
  5. mthaynes
    Couple of notes for this considering custom vs universal.

    Custom - Very good fit -BUT -

    1. it is important to tell JH how you are using them. primarily they design for performers. when your singing you have a lot of jaw movement which will impact your ear shape / face muscles etc which requires a tight fit so you maintain the acoustic seal. JH fits for performers. if you are not singing let them know when you order as they will not be fit as tightly. that being said it is not uncommon for you to have to send them back once or twice for trimming to get them where you want.

    2. your ear changes over time. you may say I am in my 40's and nothing is changing, but you are wrong. to this end JH does re-shelling for a price, however they only do this for the original purchaser. They will not convert universals into customs or re-shell 2nd hand as I understand form working with them earlier this year.

    3. if you plan on using them when you are flying. You dehydrate when you fly and stuff will swell. shoes don't fit right and you iem's will not sit right either. they may actually cause discomfort.

    I own a set of custom Layla's but I also have a set of universal Roxy's. if I fly international I will pack the Roxy's with a couple of tip sizes. usually wind up watching movies for 6 or so hours. here the Roxy works, I dont think I could do this with the Laylas

    hope this helps
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2019
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  6. Zhanming057
    That really sounds like you have a bad fit on your Layla's. I fly 6+ hours all the time, always have CIEMs in, and I always carry 2-3 pairs and use whichever one I feel like. All of mine are comfortable for up to 12 hours of flight time.

    The point of doing a custom mold with modern materials is that you can construct a perfect replica of the mold itself, no interpretations and certainly no need for trimming. If JH is using outdated techniques that result in unnecessary time and money on the part of the user, they should be called out for it. I've only ever had a fit issue with JH, had to get multiple refits, out of around 10 pairs of CIEMs that I've ordered in the past 6-7 years. That seems to me like JH being uniquely sloppy about the build process.
     
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  7. stacey
    ^ Either that, or a sign of putting you guys on the back burner vs some some major label artist ordering 10+ Laylas in one shot and demanding next day delivery.

    Also each use case is completely different, so being fitted for performing with a lot of jaw movement is going to be a completely different fit for being on an airplane where such a tight fit won't work thanks to altitude expansions.

    If that's an issue I do think that JH did offer a boom mic setup for pilots, so they could design around being in a airplane if that's the issue.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019
  8. eugene2
    Listen to this drum solo on you tube, nice dynamics even for youtube file. Rim shots and Zildjian cymbals really give a good sense of space, nice. Victor Jones is considered by many to be one of, if not the best jazz drummer on earth!
     
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