GiullianSN
Previously known as CrocodileDundee
still pretty and now unique!In case you are interested in what's under the metal faceplates, voilà! (The flygirl was added after removal).
still pretty and now unique!In case you are interested in what's under the metal faceplates, voilà! (The flygirl was added after removal).
By this I take it you mean that the ultimate form of "reference" is actually a variety of frequency curves from a variety of speakers, as opposed to using only one as a point of reference? That would make a lot of sense. After all, an important part of mixing and mastering is determining how something will sound on a variety of set ups, such as in the car, phone speakers, consumer bluetooth headphones, etc.reference can be a range of frequency curves, rather than one, specific, "golden" frequency curve
I see you remembered me mentioning "soundscapes" forever ago! I am relieved you have found it comfortable enough to consistently use for mixing.And, its precision allows for easy soundscape-building as well.
Well, not without a trace. Images from that press event still roam the net...@Deezel177
Sounds like the Janis became something of an urban legend lol. Strange how far it got in development only to vanish without a trace... Too bad, a 3-way hybrid like that is exactly the type of innovation that keeps this industry moving forward!
By this I take it you mean that the ultimate form of "reference" is actually a variety of frequency curves from a variety of speakers, as opposed to using only one as a point of reference? That would make a lot of sense. After all, an important part of mixing and mastering is determining how something will sound on a variety of set ups, such as in the car, phone speakers, consumer bluetooth headphones, etc.
I see you remembered me mentioning "soundscapes" forever ago! I am relieved you have found it comfortable enough to consistently use for mixing.
In regards to your comments on my concerns over the 8k peak, I'll put it this way... I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, and it's a relief. I am happy I can take it with a grain of salt and you yourself reached a different conclusion about the peak through your own frequency graph testing. In the end, my ears told me a different story in the demo, and it simply sounded perfect.
Last thing, this being my first pair of customs, I would love to ask you and everyone what your go-to routine is for the break-in process. This is something I want to be prepared for before I pick them up next week!
The way you explain the business reasoning makes perfect sense and I'm glad they chose that route! I'm sure if JH Audio just kept pushing new boundaries, they wouldn't be able to master their current ground, and I'm certain I wouldn't have gotten the Jolene for the price I did (definitely going in person from now on )Well, not without a trace. Images from that press event still roam the net...
I actually feel the opposite. I commend JH for not forcing out an IEM that wasn't market-ready, just for the sake of having a 3-way hybrid out in the market. The fact that they're sticking with what they know best and improving on it, rather than jumping on what's new and hip, says to me that they're sound first and buzzwords second. Personally, while I'm all for innovation in the form of bleeding-edge technology, the healthier form of innovation to me is making quality, high-end performance available at cheaper prices, which is what JH is doing with the Jolene.
I agree with that interpretation of reference as well. One of my lecturers used to encourage us to test our mixes in car stereo systems or restaurant intercoms (if possible) to see what they'd sound like in the real world. But, what I was more so talking about in my initial post was a certain degree of tolerance in terms of what can be considered neutral or reference. There can be 1-2dB deviations here and there on a frequency chart, and it'll still be considered balanced or uncoloured. For example, I'm comfortable mixing and mastering on the Jolene, Layla and my 64 Audio A18s. I recently received Vision Ears' VE7, which fits in that range as well. None of those four IEMs sound alike, yet changes in recordings come through clearly on them all. So, that's what I mean when I say reference is a range, rather than one immovable, set-in-stone target response curve.
If these are your first pair of customs, you'll definitely have an adjustment period. I'd say put them on until you start to experience a bit of tightness or pressure, then take a 10-to-20-minute break, and repeat until your ears fully adjust. If you feel pain instead of tightness or pressure, you may need an adjustment in fit. But, since JH are the ones who took your impressions (right?), then I highly doubt that's necessary. I've had 20-30 customs from different companies made with impressions from all sorts of audiologists, and I've had zero refits, so it's definitely less common than you'd think. Finally, when inserting or removing them, use a twisting motion, rather than a pushing or pulling one. Start with the connectors facing the ground, then twist them inward. Then, do the reverse when you're taking them out.
NaceThe way you explain the business reasoning makes perfect sense and I'm glad they chose that route! I'm sure if JH Audio just kept pushing new boundaries, they wouldn't be able to master their current ground, and I'm certain I wouldn't have gotten the Jolene for the price I did (definitely going in person from now on )
So I take it you went to school for this type of thing? My major is audio production; I plan to do sound design for visual media. I'd be really interested to hear what path you chose academically if you are comfortable sharing.
Thanks for further clarifying your meaning of reference. I found the Layla to be rather bright during my demo, but that was on a universal without the benefit of good isolation for the bass as well as a smoothing of the treble as I believe you put it. No doubt that the A18s is on there, I loved your review of it over on theheadphonelist, although getting the Jolene for half the price was a no brainer. Either way, it's a beautiful thing that a variety of monitors can show your slightest of deviations in a DAW all while having their own flavor.
Lastly, I'm kicking myself because I meant to put "burn-in" rather than "break-in" lol! In what I realized was a goof on my end winded up teaching me something equally as helpful, thank you for taking the time to explain the expected discomfort and methods around it for a first-time custom user. Regarding the question I meant to ask, would you mind explaining the process you recommend for burning in a brand new pair of monitors? Thanks so much as always!
Sorry for the late reply! Yeah, I got my diploma in Music Production and Audio Engineering back in 2016, and I’ve been working as a recording and live-mixing engineer for my church ever since.The way you explain the business reasoning makes perfect sense and I'm glad they chose that route! I'm sure if JH Audio just kept pushing new boundaries, they wouldn't be able to master their current ground, and I'm certain I wouldn't have gotten the Jolene for the price I did (definitely going in person from now on )
So I take it you went to school for this type of thing? My major is audio production; I plan to do sound design for visual media. I'd be really interested to hear what path you chose academically if you are comfortable sharing.
Thanks for further clarifying your meaning of reference. I found the Layla to be rather bright during my demo, but that was on a universal without the benefit of good isolation for the bass as well as a smoothing of the treble as I believe you put it. No doubt that the A18s is on there, I loved your review of it over on theheadphonelist, although getting the Jolene for half the price was a no brainer. Either way, it's a beautiful thing that a variety of monitors can show your slightest of deviations in a DAW all while having their own flavor.
Lastly, I'm kicking myself because I meant to put "burn-in" rather than "break-in" lol! In what I realized was a goof on my end winded up teaching me something equally as helpful, thank you for taking the time to explain the expected discomfort and methods around it for a first-time custom user. Regarding the question I meant to ask, would you mind explaining the process you recommend for burning in a brand new pair of monitors? Thanks so much as always!
Ditto! Every single word.Sorry for the late reply! Yeah, I got my diploma in Music Production and Audio Engineering back in 2016, and I’ve been working as a recording and live-mixing engineer for my church ever since.
I dabbled in sound design for my diploma course as well. My final project for that module was to do sound for an entire scene from the climax of Batman Begins, which included ADR, foley, scoring, etc. I used a blanket for the flapping of Batman’s cape, an electric toothbrush for the whirring noises of the Batmobile, the computerised female voice from Google Translate for the Batmobile’s computer, etc. It was a ton of fun to do, and I got to flex my Christian-Bale-Batman voice at the same time, which was a cool bonus.
Burn-in for me is more of an obligatory task, rather than a functional one. I typically just let it run as a listen to it. Or, if I’m reviewing something else at the moment, I just let it run 24/7 on one of my spare DAPs. If I hear any changes, then great. If not, then that’s fine too. I personally believe brain burn-in has more of an impact than any sort of physical burn-in anyway, so I don’t tend to think about it that much.
I'd be more impressed if you managed to pull off the Tom Hardy Bane voice....and I got to flex my Christian-Bale-Batman voice at the same time, which was a cool bonus.
Give me a couple FX plug-ins, and I’ve got you covered.I'd be more impressed if you managed to pull off the Tom Hardy Bane voice.