Jethro Tull "Stand Up" digit.remaster, when labels have to sell they invent anything

[boodi]

Saw a copy of "Stand Up" - digitally remastered - today , and got it ( stand up is one of my favourites of all time and of '70 ) ..

..the album is wonderful , but sound quality of recording is far from being good - it sounds harsh at times , timbre of instruments is quite muddy , bit too much melted together , and on ...

..so as I alredy said I thought to get the 2002 Chrysalis digitally remastered version today ( DIGITALLY REMASTERED written with capital letters on covers ) ..

disaster , and I threw away some money literally ..

The sound quality of the digitally remastered version is way worse then the original ..

was almost very confused at first.. ( I went cleaning my ears too !

I didn't trust what I was hearing .. )
*What?*

then I saw..
remastering and labelling as remasters was commercial operation -only- . They should label things this way - remastered as a commercial operation only .
They brightened up the sound and xompressed the sound frq.s to my ears ( which is very bad thing btw ) - results are very discernible and horrible , the sound has lost some magics , is harsh and flat now where it was more clean before ..
bleah..

things like this shouldn't happen ( this was a clear exemple as Stand Up is a '70 well known classic which could have needed some work to re-shine , and some work could have been done on it for sure ) and should also be reported somehow

[size=xx-small]I'm sure what I'm talking about , there's some evidence the quality of the original is better .. [/size]

I'll eventually report it in Amazon or in rateyourmusic.com , mphhh...
*very disgusted*

 

[Hell_Gopher]

Damn. I have never heard the original, although I think the album is great. The only version I own is the 2002 remaster. Perhaps I can find the LP somewhere. Anyone else comment on this?

 

[markl]

boodi, mastering is an art. It's not enough to have all the latest gear with all the latest bells and whistles. You need a skilled engineer to apply good principles of mastering. Sadly, good mastering engineers are getting harder to find, plus they are all under pressure to compress the living hell out of them to make them "louder".

You should hang out at the forums at www.stevehoffman.tv and research titles *before* you buy. This is THE place for music discussion. You will see disagreement over which CD edition of which material is better, but in general, it's an invaluable source.

Of course they'll have you hunting ebay to track down that elusive Latvian edition from 1887, but you know...

 

[boodi]

Quote:

Originally Posted by markl boodi, mastering is an art. It's not enough to have all the latest gear with all the latest bells and whistles. You need a skilled engineer to apply good principles of mastering. Sadly, good mastering engineers are getting harder to find, plus they are all under pressure to compress the living hell out of them to make them "louder". You should hang out at the forums at www.stevehoffman.tv and research titles *before* you buy. This is THE place for music discussion. You will see disagreement over which CD edition of which material is better, but in general, it's an invaluable source. Of course they'll have you hunting ebay to track down that elusive Latvian edition from 1887, but you know...

thanks for this , I've added the site to my bookmarks ( and I'll use it for sure )...

anyhow it's just a shame , you know - Stand Up is really a one classic from '70 and it deserved a remaster , I got it blind and sure to do the right thing . I mean .. Jethro tull are a band that belongs to rock history .. they're not the last pop freaks .. moreover I saw the remaster was from 2002...

I concurr with you , one should check and remastering is an art , but you should hear yourself the 2002 release - it's a thing .. mm.. I just can't understand why is that bad ..

Hell-Gopher , if you have the chance get an original copy , you should find it 10$ easily , I swear it's worth checking out against the new release - then draw your own conclusions .

 

[Aman]

Yeah, I'll give some props to the Steve Hoffman community. Steve Hoffman is the guy manning the controls at the DCC labs. He's the best of the best -- anything mastered by him is a sure winner. He's done a lot of Jethro Tull stuff. DCC's Thick as a Brick is a real winner.

By the way, Stand Up rules - great album!

 

[boodi]

I'm finding out there opinions , and yet wrote mine .., that Stand Up remaster is a crap job...

 

[bigshot]

Return the CD. Tell the place you bought it from that the guy who remastered it has tin ears. Get your money back. The only way to get quality is to demand it. Record companies aren't going to go that extra mile if consumers will buy anything with "remastered" on the cover, regardless of how it sounds. I've returned at least a dozen CDs and DVDs in the past few years. Never had any problems.

See ya
Steve

 

[boodi]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshot Return the CD. Tell the place you bought it from that the guy who remastered it has tin ears. Get your money back. The only way to get quality is to demand it. Record companies aren't going to go that extra mile if consumers will buy anything with "remastered" on the cover, regardless of how it sounds. I've returned at least a dozen CDs and DVDs in the past few years. Never had any problems. See ya Steve

you know ..
..it is the first thing I've thought when I got listening to it today ..

I'm sure they wouldn't care about though ... I know they would say something like :

:" let me see , cd and sale receipt " ..

.. :" this is yet opened plastics ..mm.. "

.." let's hear "..

.. " it sounds right "

..and I couldn't argue much since the casual sale guy wouldn't be probably capable of discerning difference between the old and the new remastered version ..

 

[mkmelt]

Just a nit, but Jethro Tull's Stand Up was originally released in 1969, not 1970. The album titled Benefit was released in 1970. The original vinyl release would be a good way to go, but don't overlook the Mobile Fidelity CD remaster. I also enjoy listening to Stand Up on commercial reel to reel tape. This is hands down my favorite Jethro Tull album.

 

[boodi]

my preferred too

so I'll search for another release which is worth buying , if anyone knows it just point me to so that I grab it.