i've got dt770-80s, any upgrade for trance music

[astranovus]

i've got some dt770-80s and i listen to mainly trance music (95%)

i love the bass on these headphones, but is there anything out there that it is even better for trance music???

please note i'm not into headphone mods, i believe expensive cans were engineered in a certain way and i appreciate that

 

[arto]

I don't think there is an upgrade from the DT770s for trance music.

 

[nickchen]

Depends. To get closer to the "energetic" side of trance, you might try out the HD25-1 or the AKG K81. I find the DT770 kickbass a bit too soft and slow in comparison.

 

[astranovus]

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Originally Posted by nickchen Depends. To get closer to the "energetic" side of trance, you might try out the HD25-1 or the AKG K81. I find the DT770 kickbass a bit too soft and slow in comparison.

no disrespect but the cans you mentioned are a definite downgrade,

 

[arto]

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Originally Posted by astranovus no disrespect but the cans you mentioned are a definite downgrade,

To be fair, he has the DT770 to compare them to. I take the point he makes about the energy of those cans. You could add Grados to his list. However, for me, the DT770 has that special 'clubby' feel - huge warm bass and endless space and a sense of (if not ACTUAL) reverberation. Maybe not hi-fi, but truly immersive.

Having said that, it may come down to which kind of trance you like to listen to: old-school uplifting, progressive, hard, etc. I usually prefer warm, rich, melodic trance of the Paul Van Dyk ilk, or dubby trance-like music - ie, sounds that seem to suit the 770s unique signature.

 

[astranovus]

yepp paul van dyk all the way, so you reckon i should stick to em,

what you mean by the dt770-80s are not hifi?
that's a joke isn't it

 

[arto]

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Originally Posted by astranovus what you mean by the dt770-80s are not hifi? that's a joke isn't it

Not really ... I guess I mean they would probably be too idiosyncratic to be considered 'reference' cans. It's not really a criticism (well, maybe a bit), because that's what I and other DT770 fans like about 'em - they are really distinctive cans that can't be beaten for what they do, IMO. They have a strong following here on the forum, but I suspect there would be equal numbers of people who can't stand them!

 

[luckybaer]

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Originally Posted by astranovus yepp paul van dyk all the way, so you reckon i should stick to em, what you mean by the dt770-80s are not hifi? that's a joke isn't it

Probably saying it is not hi-fi because the sound signature of the DT-770s is pretty colored - heavy, HEAVY bass - and not what one would call "neutral."

But I agree with him very much with his "clubby" assessment. Wearing those cans makes you feel like you are in a dance club - it is almost like having a subwoofer in your head!

 

[Skylab]

Astronovus I'm sorry you're not into mods, because I promise you that if you turned those DT770's into Headphile "Darth Beyers", you would enjoy them even more for trance...and everything else. IMO it retains all the nice qualities of the DT770 (i.e. strong, powerful bass) while improving others (a more open, less recessed midrange, and smoother, cleaner treble).

Regarding the DT770's being a hi-fi headphone, if we are using just frequency response as the criterea, yeah, it's not the most linear can around -- for that in Beyer's line you need the DT880, one of the most linear cans there is. But the DT770 is still a hi-fi headphone in every other possible way, and while it's sound is bass-heavy, it's still a truly excellent headphone.

 

[Mercuttio]

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Originally Posted by astranovus yepp paul van dyk all the way, so you reckon i should stick to em, what you mean by the dt770-80s are not hifi? that's a joke isn't it

They are the top of mid-fi to me, I think. They really resemble a nice consumer type stereo setup: big full bass, recessed midrange, bright top that isn't 100% accurate but still sounds pleasurable. That's pretty mid-fi, and there's nothing at all wrong with mid-fi when you're watching movies or playing games. Most movies and games are mixed to be played on consumer level equipment IMO, which would explain why the 770-80 works so well for them.

 

[Skylab]

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Originally Posted by Mercuttio They are the top of mid-fi to me, I think. They really resemble a nice consumer type stereo setup: big full bass, recessed midrange, bright top that isn't 100% accurate but still sounds pleasurable. That's pretty mid-fi, and there's nothing at all wrong with mid-fi when you're watching movies or playing games. Most movies and games are mixed to be played on consumer level equipment IMO, which would explain why the 770-80 works so well for them.

Funny, then, that the Darth Beyers are my favorite headphones, when my speaker hi-fi is B&W Nautilus 800 signatures/Krell/Sunfire...hardly mid-fi

My point: hi-fi is in the ear of the beholder.

 

[Mercuttio]

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Originally Posted by Skylab My point: hi-fi is in the ear of the beholder.

It's true!

 

[jjcha]

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Originally Posted by Mercuttio It's true!

Maybe. But there are those that consider the B&W 800 signature to be mid-fi.

And I've never liked Krell.

I agree with your viewpoint that the DT770's are great for what they do. The same way I consider my W10VTG to be at the top of mid-fi as well. I've never let their "mid-fi" status keep me from enjoying the music with them.

Best,

-Jason

 

[The Monkey]

I want to send my DT770 to Larry. My wallet won't let me.

 

[Skylab]

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Originally Posted by jjcha Maybe. But there are those that consider the B&W 800 signature to be mid-fi. And I've never liked Krell. Best, -Jason

Come on man. Show me ONE PERSON that thinks the N800 are mid-fi. That's just plain silly. They are incredibly neutral, with maybe just a touch of extra bass, and have been almost universally praised as top performers in their $20k price class.

I can understand not liking Krell, but it comes back to my main point that hi-fi is in the ear of the beholder.

Which brings me back around to the DT770 -- it's as hi-fi as any non-wood Grado.