iTransport - Wadia's high-end iPod-to-SPDIF transport

Jan 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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Finally! Someone listened to me! For ages I (and many other people actually) have been saying there's a huge market already for high-end iPod-to-SPDIF or PC-to-SPDIF transports. And that market is going to explode when most audiophiles start using PC/iPod + transport to replace a CD player. Here's the press release for the iTransport:
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The iTransport (SRP: $349), which is certified Made for iPod®, turns any currently available iPod player into a high-end media server by providing a bit-perfect digital audio output to an audio/video system, bypassing the player’s internal D/A conversion and output stage. Subsequently, the audio signal remains clean and unadulterated throughout the path. The iTransport is compatible with all currently available (Q1 2008) iPod players, as well as
iPhone® and iPod Touch® models.
“Until now, there has been no real bridge between the convenience of an iPod and the high-end audio listening experience,” commented John W. Schaffer, President, Wadia Digital, Inc. “The goal of making the player a true high-end media server has been hampered by the need to send the digital signal through a portable player’s D/A converter rather than that of a high performance audio system. “Instead, we designed iTransport to bypass the player’s converter and output stage altogether. When used with an iTransport, the iPod becomes a digital music source equal to some of the finest sounding transports in the high-end audio market.”

Along with turning an iPod into a high-performance audio server, iTransport is one of the first such products to access video content stored on currently available iPods. Similar to the audio section, the video signal is made available via high performance component outputs that provide up to DVD-quality video. The iTransport measures 2” x 8” x 8” (H/W/D), making it an easy addition to most racks and entertainment centers. Wadia incorporates a bit-perfect S/PDIF digital audio output and high-resolution component digital video output, as well as analog audio and video outputs for easy connection with most audio/video systems. iPod players are charged while in the dock, and can be operated via Apple’s standard IR remote control. (Not included with iTransport.)


http://www.wadia.com/library/press_r...%20Release.pdf

the Squeezebox Duet ( http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/sq...debuts-282441/ ) is also a step in the right direction, as was the original squeezebox although not directly targeting the high-end market, which the Wadia does and this Duet tries to ('tries' because Logitech is not associated with high-end market as clearly as Wadia is).
 
Jan 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM Post #5 of 13
Why not just use your computer? I mean with the computer you can do high end DSP like VST, play multiple lossless formats, play 24/96k. I don't understand the appeal.
 
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:11 PM Post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by regal /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Why not just use your computer? I mean with the computer you can do high end DSP like VST, play multiple lossless formats, play 24/96k. I don't understand the appeal.


Computers are very noisy. They transmit this noise through the soundcard and then through your digital cable.
 
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:16 PM Post #7 of 13
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Computers are very noisy. They transmit this noise through the soundcard and then through your digital cable.


not necessarily, but in the end you are right because few people bother choosing the right components to make PC's silent and provide quality data streams. but that is changing very fast - a silent apple and a squeezebox and you're set
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Jan 9, 2008 at 10:19 PM Post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Computers are very noisy. They transmit this noise through the soundcard and then through your digital cable.


I thought that if you were using a digital output (in my case optical SPDIF), then there is no interference because only the analogue output is affected by computer noise.
 
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:52 PM Post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by NeoVibe /img/forum/go_quote.gif
not necessarily, but in the end you are right because few people bother choosing the right components to make PC's silent and provide quality data streams. but that is changing very fast - a silent apple and a squeezebox and you're set
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Yes few people choose a mac!
 
Jan 9, 2008 at 11:09 PM Post #11 of 13
Benchmark Media Systems has said that Windows Vista trumps XP or Mac OSX in terms of sound quality. I love Macs, I use them for work. I loathe everything Microsoft. I have no doubt that a Mac Pro with a good sound card would rival a PC or even beat it. But an iMac, Mac Mini or a Macbook will not, since you can't put a soundcard in them. You can use a PCMCIA card for a laptop, but your choices are pretty limited and none of them are top notch. And USB external audio solutions are nothing to write home about either.

Ideally, if you could choose the quietest components to put inside a computer and eliminate the horrible clicking noises that Vista inherently loves to spit out, you'd be in good shape.
 
Jan 9, 2008 at 11:16 PM Post #12 of 13
Benchmark Media Systems is obviously full of misinformation. MacOS is natively bit-perfect, any "improvement" on that from MS I don't think anyone would want.
Now you can certainly cheat Vista w/ ASIO but then it is bit-perfect and equivalent to the Mac, not better.
 
Jan 10, 2008 at 9:16 AM Post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by regal /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Benchmark Media Systems is obviously full of misinformation. MacOS is natively bit-perfect, any "improvement" on that from MS I don't think anyone would want.
Now you can certainly cheat Vista w/ ASIO but then it is bit-perfect and equivalent to the Mac, not better.



Yes, but on a Mac you have to switch back and forth if you want to use higher sample rates. It defaults at 16/44.1. With Vista, if you choose to use an upsampler plug-in for Foobar, or if you are using native 24/06 files, it will stay locked at a sample rate of 24/96. According to Benchmark, if you are throwing normal redbook files in between, you have to manually set it back.

What good media player software are you going to use with Mac? iTunes is garbage and doesn't support ASIO. But on a Mac Pro, you can certainly use an audio card with native ASIO. You just have no media player that will be able to use it.

iTunes certainly sounds better on the Mac than it does on the PC, but it is still a far cry from Foobar on the PC. That tells me that iTunes on Mac is NOT giving you bit perfect audio. So what media player are you going to use that gives you bit perfect? I doubt you would want to use a program like Audacity or other audio editing software every time you want to play a song.

I love the iTunes interface. The moment it supports ASIO, I will use it.
 

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