Zombie_X
Headphoneus Supremus
If anything to me the HD650 sound a bit muffled or subdued for my tastes. Never once have I heard of them being bright. It has to be something in the persons set-up to be making them sound so bright.
HD650 over-bright and sibilant????
People are you serious?
For years I've read headfi and listened to people(non-headfi members) comment on the confusing and contradictory information this site.I really am interested in what many people say here and have learned a good deal about the headphone world and the perceptions of those within it.
AND/BUT...........
At this point in my life I have spent 40 years on this planet intimately involved with sound.My parents and most friends were or are hardcore audiophiles and trained and professional musicians.I have 20 years of professional music experience in studios,bars,theaters,arenas etc... I'm not bragging but I have VERY MUCH experience with sound.
My HD650 provides consistently the most non-sibilant and non-bright listening for me.I know this based on my real world experience and this:In the last 2-3 years I have developed tinnitus.This makes it impossible for me to listen to treble in any excess.The HD650 is the only headphone I can listen to without pain.I can no longer listen to my grados or shures.
I am aware of the fact that I don't use the typical headfi terminology here but...................
Something is VERY wrong with the system if HD650 sound bright and sibilant.
Perhaps its the amp, more likely its the source, and there is always the possibility that the problem is square between the earcups.
I'm just loving the lush, smooth, warm sound of the HD650's (new 2010 model). Mine are sounding better and better as they apparently are still burning in. Anyway, I don't hear any harshness or too much treble. In fact, I chose to pair them with the Nuforce HDP which is supposed to be a bit on the bright side because I felt they would have good synergy with the HD650 and that turned out to be very true as the HDP seems to be a perfect match for these great (for the price) cans.
Something is VERY wrong with the system if HD650 sound bright and sibilant.
Perhaps its the amp, more likely its the source, and there is always the possibility that the problem is square between the earcups.
Quote:Something is VERY wrong with the system if HD650 sound bright and sibilant.
Perhaps its the amp, more likely its the source, and there is always the possibility that the problem is square between the earcups.
+2 Bingo !
Yeah, you're not going to find a lot of postings about these or the HD600's being bright... or sibilant. They just aren't. Something else is amiss.
It looks like you've quoted my post in the OP, so I guess I'll try to elaborate.
From my experiences, the HD-650's are not K701-style sibilant. The K701's are hugely in-your-face in the upper mids/lower treble while very recessed in bass and upper treble. The HD-650's on the other hand seem very calm to me in the K701's problem area, however the upper treble, around 15-16khz, has this strange "shizzly" nature and is like sticking needles into my ears at high volumes unless I EQ it down a few DB. It's highly dependent on the album. Sometimes it's a problem in the cymbals, sometimes the singer's S'es. It's not a matter of amplitude though. I can hear there's a problem no matter how I try to EQ, it's just less offensive if I lower it. I can not make the K701's behave similarly by EQ'ing up a large spike in the same frequency range. I've tested several sources and amps of vastly different price-ranges and none of them make a difference in that particular regard.