Soundstage on some headphones can be deceptive. Even though I still don't believe these to be as wide sounding as what zoes interpreted, how he described it was very similar to what I am hearing. Vocal presence can be very intimate, however it does a something similar to what stax do were the sound decays outwards. When you notice it you realize that the erupt is pretty damn capable of presenting a large stage. It might also have to do with me using a dragonfly cobalt which tend to exaggerate soundstage more so than most dac/amps. Can I just ask what your prefered about the signature of the velour pads when you swished to them?