[audionewbi]

The CL1 has all my attention, the mini XLR means I can make all the plugs I want for it .

 

[gr8soundz]

  I think he was using the lowest gain setting and the L1 has three. I thought it could drive headphones up to 600 ohms.

 
Yeah, I forgot about the gain setting. Thanks.
 
However, many amps (including portables) claim the ability to drive 600 ohms but most don't do it very well. Possible the L1 could be among the very few that handle iems and hungry headphones well. Didn't want to go solely by the specs on RHA's page so the early impressions (newatlas one was more of a mini review) provide at least some baseline.
 
As usual, we'll have to wait for full reviews to know for sure.
 

 

[Ultrainferno]

  I know the circumstances under which you listened to these were not ideal. However, could you give us an idea of how the iSine(10 or 20) and the CL1 sound and how they compare? Like you, I'm leaning heavily towards the CL1 but the iSine is still interesting, albeit wonky looking. Thanks!

 
Don't forget the CL1 from at the show was only 85% finished, the tuning isn't final yet. So there's not much sense in comparing both pre prod units.
That being said, CL1 was more refined and detailed/clear, while iSine had more bass with full bodied mids and and bass. Treble on the CL1 was further extended. If I had to describe both in one word it would be refined for RHA and Big (sound +shape) for the iSine

 

[MidFiMoney]

   
Don't forget the CL1 from at the show was only 85% finished, the tuning isn't final yet. So there's not much sense in comparing both pre prod units.
That being said, CL1 was more refined and detailed/clear, while iSine had more bass with full bodied mids and and bass. Treble on the CL1 was further extended. If I had to describe both in one word it would be refined for RHA and Big (sound +shape) for the iSine

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback 

 

[Venture Guy]

@RHA Iain any word on the design of the amp in the L1?

 

[Deftone]

CL1s look gorgeous, just worried about the treble.

 

[Ultrainferno]

CL1s look gorgeous, just worried about the treble.

why? the IFA version wasn't even the final one

 

[showme99]

CL1s look gorgeous, just worried about the treble.

Why does the treble concern you? Are you worried about too much treble, or not enough? Please explain.

 

[audionewbi]

After hearing the first pizoelectrical hybrid, the TWF41, I personally have a lot of faith in the CL1. 

 

[Deftone]

Why does the treble concern you? Are you worried about too much treble, or not enough? Please explain.

I had the Ma750 & T20, while the treble is lively and detailed its also very harsh.

If they found a way to fix that then awesome. Sennheiser had to use the Helmholtz resonator in the IE800 to keep the lively treble from being harsh and tiring and it worked really really well.

 

[showme99]

I had the Ma750 & T20, while the treble is lively and detailed its also very harsh.

If they found a way to fix that then awesome. Sennheiser had to use the Helmholtz resonator in the IE800 to keep the lively treble from being harsh and tiring and it worked really really well.

I understand that the T20 comes with three filters (bass emphasis, neutral, treble emphasis) that allow you to tailor the sound to your liking. Was the treble still harsh even with the bass emphasis filter in place?

 

[nmatheis]

I understand that the T20 comes with three filters (bass emphasis, neutral, treble emphasis) that allow you to tailor the sound to your liking. Was the treble still harsh even with the bass emphasis filter in place?

I personally found the Treble filter to be harsh for my tastes, Reference filter to be quite lively but listenable, and Bass filter smoother than I preferred at first but what I ended up preferring over time.

 

[Angular Mo]

That DACAMP L1 may get me to finally upgrade from my iBasso P4 Warbler for transportable, and a more ergonomic solution than my beloved MoJo.

 

[Venture Guy]

  That DACAMP L1 may get me to finally upgrade from my iBasso P4 Warbler for transportable, and a more ergonomic solution than my beloved MoJo.

Agreed. It would be nice if the @RHA Team would supply us with some details about its design, so we can determine why it is better than alternatives...

 

[showme99]

Agreed. It would be nice if the @RHA Team
 would supply us with some details about its design, so we can determine why it is better than alternatives...

Dacamp specs are posted on RHA's website:
https://www.rha-audio.com/us/dacamp/dacamp-l1.html

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