Dec 9, 2024 at 8:00 PM Post #318 of 856
I an not sure why people are hating on the stock cables.

I didn't find them to be microphonic at all (never did track and field with them... But reasonable use case), and dent they were a solid build.

Not really into spending greater amounts of money for the least amount of difference. 😶‍🌫️

I do think the stock cable is not like the most beautiful thing in the world, but it does its job correctly, no microphonics there whatsoever.

They don't need to beautiful ( although it would be nice right) as long they're not so bad as the ones that came with the Clear OG.
I have no idea why anyone is "hating" the stock cable, we've used it for years and the vast majority of feedback is positive. It's extremely well made, with silver plated OFHC wire, a very strong design that's really reliable, and a very supple and non-microphonic housing. Just because it isn't microphonic, heavy, and inconvenient doesn't mean it's not a nice product, in fact to me the opposite. Heck, it's even hard to tangle...
 
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Dec 9, 2024 at 8:08 PM Post #319 of 856
I have no idea why anyone is "hating" the stock cable, we've used it for years and the vast majority of feedback is positive. It's extremely well made, with silver plated OFHC wire, a very strong design that's really reliable, and a very supple and non-microphonic housing. Just because it isn't microphonic, heavy, and inconvenient doesn't mean it's not a nice product, in fact to me the opposite. Heck, it's even hard to tangle...
Hi Dan. You don't carry any Hirose to 3.5mm adapter right? As things stand, there's no real elegant way to put a boom mic with your headphones. Meze's boom mic is what I am looking to use atm.

I don't find your dummer cable to induce microphonics, but rather the metallic bands do when you listen on the go.
 
Dec 9, 2024 at 8:09 PM Post #320 of 856
I have no idea why anyone is "hating" the stock cable, we've used it for years and the vast majority of feedback is positive. It's extremely well made, with silver plated OFHC wire, a very strong design that's really reliable, and a very supple and non-microphonic housing. Just because it isn't microphonic, heavy, and inconvenient doesn't mean it's not a nice product, in fact to me the opposite. Heck, it's even hard to tangle...
Exactly my thoughts. It’s really well made, feels strong and it indeed doesn’t tangle. Its simple in aesthetics and effective.
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 12:54 AM Post #321 of 856
I have no idea why anyone is "hating" the stock cable, we've used it for years and the vast majority of feedback is positive. It's extremely well made, with silver plated OFHC wire, a very strong design that's really reliable, and a very supple and non-microphonic housing. Just because it isn't microphonic, heavy, and inconvenient doesn't mean it's not a nice product, in fact to me the opposite. Heck, it's even hard to tangle...

Hello, Do you have measurements of waterfall plots for the Noire X to show the limited ringing you mention that the new meta material solves?

It seems a lot of headphone manufacturers don’t pay attention to this as much.
I find it very important to recreate accurate timbre.

Don’t know if it’s a balancing act for soundstage.

Much appreciated
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 1:42 AM Post #322 of 856
I have no idea why anyone is "hating" the stock cable, we've used it for years and the vast majority of feedback is positive. It's extremely well made, with silver plated OFHC wire, a very strong design that's really reliable, and a very supple and non-microphonic housing. Just because it isn't microphonic, heavy, and inconvenient doesn't mean it's not a nice product, in fact to me the opposite. Heck, it's even hard to tangle...
Some people need sth. to complain about.
I personally never cared about cables and always used the cable that came with the headphone I bought. I had the noire for a while and was satisfied with the cable option (like many others as it seems). And Im happy, that the noire x isn't more expensive, because you decided to put a 300$ cable in the box👍🏻
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 4:31 AM Post #323 of 856
I have no idea why anyone is "hating" the stock cable, we've used it for years and the vast majority of feedback is positive. It's extremely well made, with silver plated OFHC wire, a very strong design that's really reliable, and a very supple and non-microphonic housing. Just because it isn't microphonic, heavy, and inconvenient doesn't mean it's not a nice product, in fact to me the opposite. Heck, it's even hard to tangle...
I would say, that the 3.5 connection to the cans would be a very welcome change.
Never had Your headphones, saw them couple of times but the connection and the fact that the pads are glued was keeping me away.
It changed when i have listened, not long ago, to the Aeon 2 open. Must admit it sounds very good and the comfort is great.
Because of this i will probably check the Aeon 2 open again, but mine main goal - among other headphones - is the new Noire X.
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 4:51 AM Post #324 of 856
I would say, that the 3.5 connection to the cans would be a very welcome change.
Never had Your headphones, saw them couple of times but the connection and the fact that the pads are glued was keeping me away.
It changed when i have listened, not long ago, to the Aeon 2 open. Must admit it sounds very good and the comfort is great.
Because of this i will probably check the Aeon 2 open again, but mine main goal - among other headphones - is the new Noire X.
If you really love the sound of the Aeon Open I think you should go with that:)
None of the closed models of DCA sound like that. The Opens are much warmer aka they bring a lot more bass and low mids which probably is what you dig about the sound. In comparison the closed models are way more linear and ‘colder sounding’. Just to be perfectly clear here, I do not find the closedbacks cold sounding but in a straight a/b comparison the Aeon Open is just so much warmer and bassier. If that sound is what you like, I’d definitely go with with something like the Aeon Flow Open X from Drop. A wonderful warm affair.
The connectors imho are actually great. Once you get your head around them they’re so easy to use plus they keep the cable locked in.
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 4:57 AM Post #325 of 856
When they arrived in the store, with other new models i am waiting to compare, i will go again.
The problem with me is, that i buy not only with my ears, but with my eyes as well. I have no controll over that.
If my eyes will say Noire X, i will be helpless, and will have to follow that command. Only if the sound difference would be to big than i can get controll and say no.
Otherwise , eyes are the boss.
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 5:03 AM Post #326 of 856
When they arrived in the store, with other new models i am waiting to compare, i will go again.
The problem with me is, that i buy not only with my ears, but with my eyes as well. I have no controll over that.
If my eyes will say Noire X, i will be helpless, and will have to follow that command. Only if the sound difference would be to big than i can get controll and say no.
Otherwise , eyes are the boss.
I genuinely appreciate your honesty Conan. I wish more folks in this hobby would be this candid about how much looks play into their decisions.
Personally I think it’s madness and fully focus on sound and comfort, but hey that’s me. If something also looks the part additionally to sounding and feeling great, I consider that as a bonus😅
 
Dec 10, 2024 at 5:08 AM Post #327 of 856
Christmas came earlier this year:
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Dec 10, 2024 at 5:10 AM Post #328 of 856
Aesthetics aside, do be sure to have a good listen to both with a few carefully selected songs that you know well.

I have not listened to the Aeon 2 Open but I had a pair of Aeon Flow Open and I could not listen to them after getting the original Noire. They just sounded excessively warm/thick with a bit of resonance to my ears.

YMMV of course.

I don’t use the stock Noire cable (same as the X cable I believe) but it is a very decent cable. I put on a cable that I prefer visually but changed for no other reason. I don’t understand why the Hirose connectors would be a concern unless of course you have a bunch of cables equipped with other connectors. I think the Hirose look good and function well.
 
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Dec 10, 2024 at 5:11 AM Post #329 of 856
@Kammerat Rebekka Hey, i agree with You, that is stupid :L3000: but is something i can not controll.
Right now i walk around in the house and say to myself - You have Auteur Classic and it sound very good, but there comes a voice in my head , that is saying - no , i want something better looking. I have no chance here. Lost case.
I think i am a big child. Should be already an adult, with my 50 springs, but it looks like something went not according to plan, in this matter.:beerchug::beyersmile:
 
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Dec 10, 2024 at 5:32 AM Post #330 of 856
I would say, that the 3.5 connection to the cans would be a very welcome change.
No! please stick with the Hirose or something similar (minXLR, ODU miniSNAP,...)
3,5mm Jacks are very error prone. The cable of the Aeon2 Noire are very durable. But to sturdy for my taste. But please stick with them!

I don't understand people who add microphone booms to high end headphones. Why not just use a good small diaphragma Mic mounted on top of your monitor?
Never had Your headphones, saw them couple of times but the connection and the fact that the pads are glued was keeping me away.
Both are one of the best decisions DCA made. Both reduces any errors as good as possible and doesn't have any downsides
It changed when i have listened, not long ago, to the Aeon 2 open. Must admit it sounds very good and the comfort is great.
Because of this i will probably check the Aeon 2 open again, but mine main goal - among other headphones - is the new Noire X.
The closed DCA Headphones are much better than the open ones ;)
 

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