Nov 10, 2007 at 3:11 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 11

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hi all, i was just wondering if interconnects require burn in as do amps and headphones. i'm particularly referring to the ipod line out dock interconnects. if it requires a burn in period, does the material of the cable matter ? eg. silver plated copper or copper cables. thanks
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Nov 10, 2007 at 3:18 PM Post #3 of 11
Well, that really depends on who you ask.
Lots of people think burn-in is just a waste of time, while others (like me) feel that it makes a difference. That goes for every component in the signal patch, from source to headphone driver.
 
Nov 10, 2007 at 4:30 PM Post #5 of 11
This is one of those subjects that will get you all kinds of answers. At the end of the day it does not matter what any of us thinks, only what you think. So go for it! test the gear and make up your mind.

In my case I can hear the effects of burn in in some gear but not in all the gear I have tried. But overall I am a believer in burn in.
 
Nov 10, 2007 at 5:00 PM Post #6 of 11
Burn in is real and noticeable in electromechanical devices, and pure mechanical devices, in which they need a physical adjustment of the parts in movement, or the loss of stiffness as some may call it as well, tha means in drivers, speakers, motors, cars, shoes, clothes, etc...and even though is not that big as many people claim them to be...

Cables, electronic components, etc...regardless of what hundreds of people will tell you, and what hundreds of people will make you believe and argue, there is no one single bit of physical evidence of the existance of such improvement with burn in, other than in thier head and to their ears...What is said in any EE course and in all books, is that any electronic componet after reaching the working temperature, and estabililation of the internal flow of current, is ready to be used, and that is reached inside the first hour of use, unless in very few exceptions...

It will be nice to ask someone if a CPU in a computer requires burn in to work faster, or if a phone requires burn in to communicate faster, or if the Tomahawk (the actual missile) is burned in for 400 hours before being sent to the target for more accuracy (BTW those are militar devices, which electronic circuits are far more complex, and should be, as logic indicates, far more reliable than any audio device) or maybe a new electronic panel on a nuclear submarine, or on a plane...If an audi amp requires burn in the before mentioned circuits will do as well, trust me on that, they will not jeopardize the security for 400 hours of use...
 
Nov 10, 2007 at 5:13 PM Post #7 of 11
Literally speaking, no audio equipment "requires" burn-in. The question(s) might better be 1) does it improve sonically from being used over time, 2) does this use need to be continuous or intensive initially for some period of time to get any such benefit, and should one refrain from listening during this period. My answer to the first is generally yes. My answer to the second is probably no. And my answer to the third is heavens no. In all likelihood the only benefit of taking burning in into account is to consider whether one is in such a rush to get the best type of performance as soon as possible that it is worth going to extra trouble, in which case round the clock--with or without brief off intervals--passing of signal--music or possibly better, pink or white noise--will get you there faster, though you will miss most of hearing the changes during the process.
 
Nov 10, 2007 at 5:40 PM Post #8 of 11
Here are a couple facts about cable "burn in". Cables change as the voltage/current amounts are changed within them. it effects the relationship between the wire and the dielectrics. Triboelectric noise is held in cables. The cable companies that use the better dielectrics get rid of this noise after various amounts of use. I guess this is called "burn in"
There is a change to the cable dielectric after use. How long it takes (I would think) depends on the what dielectric is used.
 
Nov 10, 2007 at 6:06 PM Post #9 of 11
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Logic and reasoning would say no.


who needs logic and reasoning when you can just listen with your own ears before, during and after 'burn-in'?

sometimes i think people try and get too scientific with things in the audio realm when it isnt always called for.

logic and reasoning sounds like trying to talk down an armed hostage taker, its just about the sound to an individuals ears, nothing dramatic, i take it you dont believe in burn-in, thats great, some of us, on the other hand trust our own ears.
 

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