[adrift]

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Originally Posted by chadbang /img/forum/go_quote.gif My personal feeling was that it's good, but not great. I think Tarantino has ample skills to create a masterpiece, but he's so sold on paying homage to pulp cinema that it's dragging him down. Many scenes in the movie were absolutely masterful (I mean amazing work: meticulously acted and directed) but I thought the sum was less than its parts because of his insistence on glorifying pulp cinema. I'm sure his intent was to let the audience have fun with some camp, but why not try to create a really good film, rather than waste talent in the pursuit of mimicking a lesser one? As a written work, one of my main gripes was the Inglourious Basterds concept. This was supposed to be his "Dirty Dozen" "The Great Escape" war film, but I really had no idea who any of the Basterds were. He set them up without any real personalities, (except Pitt) and their story is never developed. Think of all the characters in "The Great Escape" -- and there are plenty --- and you get to know each of their personalities and histories intimately. I barely knew anything about the basterds when this film was over. Did I get any sense of their exploits? Only in reference. I think what's weighing in against Tarantino is his loquacious style versus the traditional movie form of 2-3 hours. He's a master of dialogue, but when you've devoted 15 minutes to one scene, you've used up a good portion of your film. Consequently, as everyone has noted here, the film can be divided into a couple set pieces quite easily. There's no real sense of a journey or adventure, no unfolding of events. Most great films or novels are a picaresque - you finish them feeling like you've been on a journey. I felt Inglourious Basterds was just underdeveloped and a bit lazy in design, especially after an intricately structured film like Pulp Fiction. I think Tarantino needs to sit down and take a year or two to write another real screenplay. He should abandon his wacky plans like making Kung Fu tribute films in Mandarin and work his ass off on producing another masterpiece like Pulp Fiction. That's what made Kubrick so special, he wouldn't just hack away at any project. I think Tarantino is just as talented -- maybe even more so -- but he needs to think about his legacy and stop paying homage to genres not worthy of his talents. Anyway, that's my two sense worth.

Yep. That's sort of the sense I got out of this film as well. Sort of a pieced together feel with the sum feeling less than the parts. I do disagree with Tarantino being a master at dialogue. Tarantino is known for his dialogue, but he's only occasionally a master at it I think. Too much of Tarantino the upper-middle-class white film geek in his dialogue. Its like the sort of dialogue that sounds genius on paper, but in real life is completely ridiculous (though highly quotable). Probably get you beat up a lot for being a smart ass. lol

 

[Blackmore]

This movie is going to far...WWII is not kind of subject that you JUST make an movie, imo. To be honest, its sucking big time, really big ****ing time, pardon for my langue. This is typical meaningless 2 hours of your time, where Brad Pitt is nothing but spot, or even better, Charles ****ing Bronson, who is going to save the world without bleeding, yeah right, I am amused to death.

 

[Redcarmoose]

There should have been a campy part in the bar where the blond agent gets up on stage and sings a WW2 song. Or someone to do something stupid and funny. Even a dance like the end of Sin City would have been cool. I may have big wishes but a lot of these war grinds had cool bar musicals where it became light for awhile and some female lead sang, even on top of a played record or backed up by the men singing in the bar would have made it for me.

 

[adrift]

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose /img/forum/go_quote.gif There should have been a campy part in the bar where the blond agent gets up on stage and sings a WW2 song. Or someone to do somthing stupid and funny. Even a dance like the end of Sin City would have been cool. I may have big wishes but a lot of these war grinds had cool bar musicals where it became light for awhile and some female lead sang, even ontop of a played record or backed up by the men singing in the bar would have made it for me.

I think the bar may have been a little small for that. I think you're thinking more of a beer hall environment. I actually really liked this scene but like much of the film thought it dragged out too long and wasn't really expecting the outcome.

 

[Ingo]

Some nice thoughts on the movie, folks.


I have nothing intricate to say about it but I really enjoyed it. For now, it was as entertaining to me as any QT movie. I do hold 'Pulp Fiction' in high regard as a groundbreaking masterpiece, but as far as sheer entertainment I think I will watch 'Basterds' more often.

 

[Redcarmoose]

Well I have friends who go to sleep with Pulp playing in the DVD player every nite like a bedtime story. Kind of scary huh? I will play the movie many times a year just because it is one of those movies you can watch over and over again. It's kind of like an alternate world, always there, always alive. Sick huh!

There was a very level feel to Bastards that I was not expecting. A mixture of a little Jackrabbit Slims in the bar would have help break it up. I know where he was going with the heavy power trip questions from the main Nazi. You had to love his style. He was great and no one could have played his role better. I will buy the movie on DVD as it will be fun to see over and over. The other thing that differs this movie from Pulp would have to be that it has very little edge. Pulp was a ride to a non PC world. It was a 10 on the shock-o-meter. We see a shoot-up in Bastards but aside from the knife work, the movie was at a low level as far as pushing things. Remember what Tarantino was raised on, movies that could be pulled from showing at any time due to censorship. That was the edge of the 70s. The movies were dangerous and offered something you could not get from Hollywood. After Dogs and Pulp we see these movies still cool but always a little closer to the mainstream. I would have to say there are a lot of non PC movies out there. This one you could take your Mom to.

 

[Solid Snake]

The movie kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

For such a horrific period of time, I thought maybe it wasn't the most suitable topic for a comedy film. I did thought at first this was an action oriented movie, but it was leaning more over the comical side for sure.

Movie gave me the feeling that the Americans were bad while the Germans were good.

YMMV

 

[moriez]

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Originally Posted by Blackmore /img/forum/go_quote.gif This movie is going to far...WWII is not kind of subject that you JUST make an movie, imo. To be honest, its sucking big time, really big ****ing time, pardon for my langue. This is typical meaningless 2 hours of your time, where Brad Pitt is nothing but spot, or even better, Charles ****ing Bronson, who is going to save the world without bleeding, yeah right, I am amused to death.

Haha, Dutch soberness?

The movie is way too superficial for me and fails at being funny or delivering a convincing story. If only Tarantino wouldve kept up the level of the first scene. In that scene you see once again what he is capable of: the once upon a time in the west style bringing the farmer to life and the gentleman nazi villain interrogation. And wth happened to Brad Pitt here? It seems to me this was his on-the-side project.

 

[virometal]

As an aided, IB is up to $227 worldwide gross, which would surpass Pulp's $213 mill for the highest grossing Tarantino film, admittedly not adjusted for inflation. Pulp Fiction would of grossed approx. $320 mill worldwide in today's U.S. dollars.

Such news should be good for QT fans. Death Proof - part of Grindhouse - was a bit of a flop, and the KB saga did not perform up to expectations in theaters. It was a hit in the home market however, as surely IB will be too.

 

[alphaphoenix]

Great movie. It had some beautiful and artistic imagery. I vividly remember the gal's red dress in front of the screen as she was being shot in slow motion.

 

[sachu]

Thought the movie sucked big time...people just get whipped up into thinking it is a masterpiece just because it was directed by Tarantino who according to me peaked with Reservoir Dogs. All else was lukewarm at best.

 

[earwicker7]

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Originally Posted by rockin_amigo14 /img/forum/go_quote.gif thoroughly enjoyed it. never was a gigantic tarantino fan. huge fan of pulp fiction and i thought sin city was decent. didnt really like anything else he's done, but this was definitely worth the money.

Sin City wasn't Tarantino... it was Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller

 

[earwicker7]

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Originally Posted by chadbang /img/forum/go_quote.gif This was supposed to be his "Dirty Dozen" "The Great Escape" war film, but I really had no idea who any of the Basterds were. He set them up without any real personalities, (except Pitt) and their story is never developed. Think of all the characters in "The Great Escape" -- and there are plenty --- and you get to know each of their personalities and histories intimately. I barely knew anything about the basterds when this film was over.

I mentioned the same thing earlier on in the thread. I think it's the fatal flaw of the movie.

 

[earwicker7]

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake /img/forum/go_quote.gif The movie kind of rubbed me the wrong way. For such a horrific period of time, I thought maybe it wasn't the most suitable topic for a comedy film. I did thought at first this was an action oriented movie, but it was leaning more over the comical side for sure. Movie gave me the feeling that the Americans were bad while the Germans were good. YMMV

I hope you don't watch Family Guy; your head would probably explode during the "September 11th, Two Thousand Fun" clip

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I don't really get the "Americans bad, Germans good" interpretation of the movie. I guess people are too used to the typical "Americans angels, Germans demons" theme of most movies. I thought both sides had good and bad people.

 

[883dave]

I felt it was an average movie, would not bother to watch a second time