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iFi audio xDSD- The Official Thread

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  1. Gus141
    I would agree with how you describe the xDSD’s sound. It reminds me of another Burrr-Brown-equiped DAC that I have (but with a Burr-Brown PCM1794 chip). For long listening sessions the Burr-Brown based DACs aren’t fatiguing and as you say, have great “musicality”. But when I’m doing critical listening or enjoying some of my old favorites that I know very well, I go to other DAC solutions (and usually not a portable one). So the strengths of the xDSD lie in the portable uses for the DAC in my opinion.

    Cheers
    Gus
     
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  2. flyte3333
    The micro iDSD BL he compared against (and said was more neutral) is also BB equipped... actually double BB'ed.

    The analogue section of the micro iDSD BL is larger.. so that might have something to do with it.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
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  3. Gus141
    True. I wasn’t thinking about the BL comparison he made when I wrote my reply; I don’t have a BL. I was just commenting on how I agree about the xDSD sound and the use cases for me.

    I’m definitely not saying all Burr-Brown based DACs are the same. After all the Pro iDSD has four Burr-Brown converter chips. I don’t have one of those either, but I’ll bet it sounds better than the xDSD :wink:

    Cheers
    Gus
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
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  4. iFi audio
    That is quite a collection you have over there.
    Life is too short not to experiment and in order to innovate, you have to experiment.
     
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  5. Bravehrt
    Hello everyone. Newb here. Just got the xDSD and am using Sony MDR Z7s. I have 2 issues / questions.

    1. I don't have a long enough cable to use, so I (tried) to get one, but it's 2 individual stereo cables, but not a "Y" into a 3.5 to plug into the xDSD. What adapter or cable can I get that's (reasonably) priced? I've seen some that cost 100-300 just for the cable. I'm also not sure if I need balanced or not. I (think) I do? If anyone can please point me out what to buy that'd be fantastic.

    2. Big issue. I just signed up for Tidal, solely for their MQA library. That's why I purchased all this equipment.

    I am to understand that LED #7 on the front of the DAC, the KHZ light IS supposed to change color depending on what file type is being played. In this case, with MQA, it is supposed to turn magenta. Mine does not. It stays consistently green, which makes me feel like it is not working as it should be.

    I am connected via USB to a Windows 10 PC. My speakers are set correctly, my sound rate is set to 192 properly, the iFi does show the device connected, as does Tidal.

    I have watched the videos and ensured everything is 100% set up correctly. So with that said, how / why / when does this light turn magenta?

    Can anyone out there please help me? I'm thinking I have a defective unit and am on the verge of sending this back.

    Thanks so much!
     
  6. qsk78
    Do you use a desktop version of Tidal? mqa are not available in the web version.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2019
  7. Bravehrt
    Sorry, yes. I am using the desktop client. Latest and greatest, and my PC is fully patched as well.
     
  8. Bravehrt
    And all my Tidal settings are exactly as the xDSD video instructs as well.
     
  9. RockStar2005
    Has ANYONE got an answer on this? iFi, how about you?!!
     
  10. qsk78
    I never touch the sound rate in Windows, it is on 48 kHz always.
     
  11. Bravehrt
    Does your led change color for different formats ?
     
  12. Bravehrt
    Anyone out there seen this before? Sorry to ask again, but really need some help on this.

    I've tried everything possible to get this KHZ light to switch to magenta when playing my MQA files.

    Every single thing is connected and configured properly. I've even tried it with my iPhone configured properly as per their videos, and yet, the light stays green, regardless of format I am playing.

    I want to know, for certain, that the device is recognizing and playing my MQA songs properly, and I want the light to work as advertised in their Youtube videos.

    Again the setup is a Windows 10 PC, using Sony MDR-Z7s, connected via USB. Speakers configured properly. XDSD detected. Sound quality tested at 48 and 192 - same result - green light. I am using Tidal, in Master mode, with the sound settings set the way the video describes. Same result - green light only.

    Can anyone please help or provide information on how this can be resolved?

    Thanks so much,
     
  13. iFi audio
    It looks like your iFi device tells you that what it receives ain't MQA, which would imply the issue in what comes out of your transport device.

    Say, why don't you shoot us a message here: http://support.ifi-audio.com/index.php

    Perhaps from there we'll be able to help you. And one last thing: which FW you have on your iFi product?

    Battery life remains the same.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2019
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  14. qsk78
    @iFi audio - need you technical assistance here.

    What I do wrong here? 2.5 mm out is a wrong output?

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    The fact is that the xDSD and the xCAN are connected via a 3.5 mm 4 pole interconnect cable. Is it logically to utilize a 3.5 mm 4 pole output of the xCAN in that case?


    I tried to compare 2.5 and 3.5 4 pole outputs on my S-EM6 V2 – to me (may be this is just a placebo) the 2.5 mm sounds obviously louder BUT the 3.5 mm 4 pole output is slightly better in terms of channel separation and soundstage width. And with the 2.5 mm I’m hearing a background noise which is not the case for the 3.5 output.

    So is this a correct statement?
    To get maximum performance:
    • use 3.5 mm 4 pole S-balanced output if your DAC and xCAN are connected via 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm 4 poIe IC cable
    • use 2.5 mm 4 pole balanced output if your DAC and xCAN are connected via 2.5 mm to 2.5 mm 4 poIe IC cable

    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2019
  15. iFi audio
    This.

    We'd go from xDSD to xCAN via a cable on both ends finished with 3,5mm TRRS plugs. This would use our S-Balanced tech, but most importantly xCAN would have its balanced circuit engaged. From there you can use either a 2,5mm headphone out or its neighbour, but with IEMs finished with a 3,5mm TRRS plug to keep everything balanced all the way.
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2019
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