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Try shure olives, they are pretty smooth.
I used it without any problem and it was recommended by an audiologist - whether it is inner ear or outer ear, I reckon it is still skin. Of course you want to keep it to a tiny amount.
Haven't listened to ER4P for awhile.
I ordered Eargene but I also spoke with my mom, an audiologist, and she recommended trying this lubricant called Oto-ease. I just ordered a bottle of both from Amazon, and I'll let you know if either of them works.
Oto-ease is good. There's also Otoferm which is more of a cream or ointment.
Anybody happen to have measurements overlaying the ER2SE, ER4S(R), and ER4XR? Curious to see how the 2SE compares to the other two in FR.
My preferred way of wearing the Etys... small regular silicone eartips for larger IEM tubes fitted on the Etys over de-cored Complys as "adapter"
In truth I'd like to find a pair of single flanges that fit directly over the Etys and fit as deep or deeper as this mishmash, but so far I've drawn a blank. I had a pair of Shures but those had a stiffened up front end that is no narrower in diameter (my ear canals are tiiiiny). With the right single flanges from the right pair of regular IEMs (and here the choice is limitless) this feels the smoothest to my ear going in as deep as they can go.
Perhaps you could try Westone Star Tru-Fit tips (I think that's what they are called). Single flange, multiple sizes. Might be worth a shot?
I experienced itchiness and irritation for about the first month of using the Etymotics (deep insertion triple flanges), but eventually it went away. I guess the canal skin needed time to adjust.
It's warmer than black shure, reduce a bit of highs. Bass becomes more weighty. It's very suitable to er4b but is too muffled for er4sr/xr.
Just replaced the connnectors on a KZ bluetooth setup with Etymotic ER4P plugs. Took about an hour and cost about $25 (both parts from AliExpress). Great thing about the KZ bluetooth cable is that it supports APTX. Sounds great, listening to them now!
I notice that the volume seems to "increase" when I use the foamies vs using the triflanges on my ER2. The triflanges give a great seal (can't hear a thing) but are still a tick or two below in perceived volume compared to the foams. Is there any reason why? I don't feel any particular amount of pressure in my ears when using the triflanges.
I think it all comes down to the seal you get inside the ear canal. Foam is superior when it comes to isolating noise. Better noise isolation equals higher volume and a bit more bass.
Sounds like an insertion depth difference which is more than whether you have a seal or not