If I was the Koss Product Manager I'd...

[bubbagump]

Recable the ksc35 and ksc75, give them proper cabling/impedance tweaks, pop them in some closed and open full-size cans, price them aggressively. Then come here and give away a hundred pairs and ask for feedback.

this is more a rant actually.

 

[Mailliw]

KOSS doesn't seem to take their full-sized headphone lines very seriously I find.

I have a pair of Koss R80s that I use all the time. They've broken countless times, and I keep fixing them (they are mutant monsters now). I don't want to send them back either, because a new pair will break in a few weeks, they are absolutely flawed in design.

I got the PRO3AA off ebay (at postoffice as I type this), and apparently they have a design flaw in the headband-cupmount joint like the R80s.

Their lifetime warranty is excellent but when it means sending them back over and over again, its worthless.

The R80 price/performance is great, but I can't recommend them to anyone because they inevitabley will break (in 4 locations).

 

[PTheD]

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Originally Posted by Mailliw KOSS doesn't seem to take their full-sized headphone lines very seriously I find. I have a pair of Koss R80s that I use all the time. They've broken countless times, and I keep fixing them (they are mutant monsters now). I don't want to send them back either, because a new pair will break in a few weeks, they are absolutely flawed in design. I got the PRO3AA off ebay (at postoffice as I type this), and apparently they have a design flaw in the headband-cupmount joint like the R80s. Their lifetime warranty is excellent but when it means sending them back over and over again, its worthless. The R80 price/performance is great, but I can't recommend them to anyone because they inevitabley will break (in 4 locations).

Seriously now, how often would the R80 break in the average consumer electronic use year? NOt once a weak, not really?

 

[PTheD]

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Originally Posted by bubbagump Recable the ksc35 and ksc75, give them proper cabling/impedance tweaks, pop them in some closed and open full-size cans, price them aggressively. Then come here and give away a hundred pairs and ask for feedback. this is more a rant actually.

That is an excellent sugjestion. I like the part about changing the cables, something like a $20 (@ cost) cable should really help them out. Of course I like the idea of them coming to the forum & giving them away as well. If only Koss would give away their KSC75 here. I wish that Koss KSC75s were handed out as door prizes on this forum or something. You create a thread that everyone thinks is a good one & you get a KSC75, you do a good review you get a KSC75, you flame the crap out of a Bose loving know-nothing...you get...well you know.

 

[Mailliw]

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Originally Posted by PTheD Seriously now, how often would the R80 break in the average consumer electronic use year? NOt once a weak, not really?

Well, I'll admit mine do get more than average abuse, but there is no way these will last a year when used lightly.

Putting them on and taking them off is what does it. They use tiny screws that shear out of the plastic. Also plastic that is pre-bent, I think it has undesirable residual stresses in it, because I've witnessed that spot break 4 times.

Once all it took to snap them, was one fitting on my friend's rather large head.

 

[PTheD]

SO how many times a year then? Like 2?

 

[Mailliw]

Sounds about right

I'll post a picture of my R80s tomorrow, so you can see how they've evolved

 

[PTheD]

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Originally Posted by Mailliw Sounds about right I'll post a picture of my R80s tomorrow, so you can see how they've evolved

Sounds like a good idea to me, I can't wait to see them. Let me know how they sound as well, that is always what I like to know about headphones the most anyway. Although all the other information is important.

 

[crazyfrenchman27]

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Originally Posted by PTheD you flame the crap out of a Bose loving know-nothing...you get...well you know.

I actually haven't seen any bose lovers on these forums. Have I missed something?

-Matt

 

[PTheD]

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Originally Posted by crazyfrenchman27 I actually haven't seen any bose lovers on these forums. Have I missed something? -Matt

They pop up everyonce in a while & are quickly either exterminated or converted & all evidence destroyed that they ever had said sickness.

 

[bubbagump]

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Originally Posted by PTheD You create a thread that everyone thinks is a good one & you get a KSC75, you do a good review you get a KSC75

or perhaps this would be a crazy diy project?

project koss brain transplant.

"yes acme supply, I'd like to order some empty koss headphones, a dremel and some krazyglue please"

 

[PTheD]

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Originally Posted by bubbagump or perhaps this would be a crazy diy project? project koss brain transplant. "yes acme supply, I'd like to order some empty koss headphones, a dremel and some krazyglue please"

That is a crazy DIY project, like a brain surgen & an audiologest live next to each other & get togeather on the weekend to do something fun & whammo!!!! that is what you get.

 

[bubbagump]

i'll have to see if I can pull it together for the bay area meet coming up

 

[Jahn]

you guys HAVE seen the moon audio recabling job on the KSC-35, right? if not, check them out on Drew's website!

 

[kramer5150]

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Originally Posted by crazyfrenchman27 I actually haven't seen any bose lovers on these forums. Have I missed something? -Matt

Theyre banished on the spot... IE they quickly see the light and convert.

LOL