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iBasso DX160 - The listening experience only gets better and better. Check for latest Online Update. Unboxing 1st Page.

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Paul - iBasso, Aug 3, 2019.
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  1. Luis1316
    I feel that my comment might help a little bit in the thread, so i'm posting it here too.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2019
  2. Hawaiibadboy Contributor
    Mango player is crashing repeatedly and when re-opened not responding.
    Re-start fixes temporarily. No hard boot required yet
     
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  3. shahkhan
    If this issue would be encountered and reported by other users, people will tilt towards M11 eventually... Btw any idea about mW pumped by dx160?
     
  4. Hawaiibadboy Contributor
    The specs I think are in the first post? It is potent.
    The firmware needs work. Have not had a DAP crash as much ever. Firmwares are designed to fix such things so I am cool but 30% of the screen being taken by the control bar on a high res screen is a waste of space. Maybe they can steal Colorfly U8 player G.U.I since those folks go ghost on users so it should be abandonware :wink:
     
  5. Vitaly2017


    You are aware that mango is not supported officially by ibasso in dx160.
    Its lurker that has to fix this since he released this extra bonus for dx160.

    May I ask how you find its sonic performances? Is it on par with wm1z?
    How is is the sound signature, how does it compares vs zx300 or wm1z?
     
  6. PinkyPowers
    The DX160 is superior to the N5ii, no question. Cayin has its work cut out for them in this price range.

    The DX200 is still the better-sounding device... if you have one of the newer amp modules. The original AMP1 is not great, and I'd take the DX160 over that any day. But the DX200 with AMP7 or 8 is a goddamn beast.

    And yes, it DX160 will drive the HD6xx easily. It drives Sundara easily, and Sundara is harder to drive. It also handles my ZMF Atticus beautifully.

    HOWEVER! This is from the balanced port. There's a lot more power from the balanced port. If you plan to run single-ended, you may run into problems. I haven't tested that yet.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2019
  7. Vitaly2017

    Spec wise dx160 is on par with dx228.
    So why does dx160 sound inferior?
     
  8. PinkyPowers
    I didn't design the thing, so I can't say. Are those specs implemented the same? Is the power supply equal between both? And I don't mean the battery, but the power supply circuitry.

    Also, my DX160 isn't fully burned-in yet. And my comment is based off my initial impressions. I'll have a more complete take when I get closer to review.
     
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  9. Paul - iBasso
    There are a couple of thousand DX160s now in users hands now and software has not been an issue. I suspect there is some corruption in the FW on your DX160. I assume you have done a factory reset. The next step would be to use the Android Tool and a .img firmware for the DX160 to wipe and refresh the FW on the DX160.

    1. Android Tool for use on Windows computers and used with the .img FW to do a fresh factory install and then update to the latest FW in the normal manner:

    http://www.ibasso.com/uploadfiles/download/AndroidTool.zip

    2. Firmware in .img format to be used with the Android Too.

    DX160 V1.0 image (055)
    http://www.ibasso.com/uploadfiles/download/DX160-v1.0-image.zip

    3. USB/DAC Windows Driver to be used with Windows computer for the above and loaded to the computer first.

    http://ibasso.com/uploadfiles/20181222/201812222356407309.zip
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2019
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  10. shahkhan
    I see no reviews online for dx160, do send it to reviewers, so that people who are thinking of pulling trigger do make an aware decision.
     
  11. Lurker0
    A number of reviewers already have it. I believe they need to recover from the shock to start writing :wink:
     
  12. PinkyPowers
    I know I do. :)
     
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  13. twister6 Contributor
    Here is something totally bizarre. When I have DX160 and DX220 w/amp1mk2 (DX221) in front of me, I can tell the difference in sound. It’s not a huge difference, rather subtle where I hear DX160 mids to have a little more body making them sound a bit more fuller and intimate, while DX221 mids are a little more transparent and a touch brighter, making them sound more reference. All this under a test using the same lossless track (as an example, Ed Sheeran “Shape of you” flac), both having the latest fw, volume matched, with the same gain, the same filter, and using U18t. One difference, U18t cable is 2.5mm terminated so it goes directly into DX221, while I’m using DDhifi 2.5mm to 4.4mm adapter with DX160. Again, the difference in sound under these test conditions is not night’n’day to my ears (just my subjective opinion), but I can hear it with both in front of me.

    With all the talk about DX160 vs DX220, today I decided to do a blind test. Did it twice, five tries each, with my daughter randomly switching between DX160 and DX221 without me looking at it, each one playing the same track under the same settings. To my huge surprise, in the first test I got 2 out of 5 right guessing which DAP I was listening to. In the second test, I got 3 out of 5 right. So, in a blind test I couldn’t be 100% sure which DAP is which…

    Hate to say it, but I have been using DX160 a lot more than DX221 lately. Of course, DX220 is a flagship and it has a modular design with access to different amps (and people seems to be having fun modding it). But to me both DAPs have identical Android performance (the same AnTuTu 3D benchmark score, confirmed that), the same fast Mango app response, the same streaming app experience (using Qobuz daily), and to my ears the sound with default amp1mk2 is not too far from DX160. For crying out loud, I even failed to tell them 100% apart in a blind test. And with DX160 being lighter and thinner, I just reach out for it more often. I hear a more noticeable difference in sound between R5 and R6Pro, but not so much between DX160 and DX221.

    ibasso_dx160-x04.jpg ibasso_dx160-x05.jpg
     
  14. lucasbrea
    Thanks for your feedback, what do you think about battery life compared to the dx220?
     
  15. twister6 Contributor
    I already mentioned my battery test results before, getting about 9.5hrs on DX160 (4.4mm BAL, low gain, FLAC in a loop with a display off). DX221 was 8hrs from 2.5mm BAL, playing mix of mp3/flac in a loop with a display off. DX220 has more power hungry higher performance DACs.
     
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