Please read through this thread via Google Groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.audio.pro/xUiNQOxffbY It's come up again: The regulars on Rec.Audio.Pro(duction) insist I don't know how to distinguish a "waveform from an envelope" when referencing a piece of audio visualized. I know what each are: a waveform shows individual waves(squiggles), and an envelope is the outline of the peaks of all those squiggles. The debate - check that - the nit pick, among those guys, is at what point, at what level of magnification, does a waveform become an envelope??? It's driving me nuts because it bothers them so, which detracts from the topic of thread. Which, by the way, you are free to comment on in here, or in there if you have a Google acct. The topic is if clipped audio can cause damage to transducers, specifically tweeters. Which raises the question: Is over-compressed, and/or brick-wall limited audio bad for sound reproduction equipment?