Hugo TT 2 by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread
Feb 21, 2021 at 4:34 PM Post #12,646 of 16,231

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griff500, I stopped using Apple Music as a source years ago. 😀
Sure, but I meant that the hardware is not going to be optimised for third-party apps and I doubt that ensuring the quality is sufficient for use as a high-quality audio streamer was high on their agenda (which doesn't mean it can't do a decent job of course).
 
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A dedicated streamer couldn't improve on the output from a six-year old MacBook Pro?

Right. The age of the Macbook doesn't matter, it's not wine or cheese. All USB audio is only USB 2.0 anyways, a protocol which hasn't changed since it's release, likely decades.

The M Scaler's in-built USB is so good, it pretty much optimally primes the USB signal no matter what the USB device is connected to.
 
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Right. The age of the Macbook doesn't matter, it's not wine or cheese. All USB audio is only USB 2.0 anyways, a protocol which hasn't changed since it's release, likely decades.

The M Scaler's in-built USB is so good, it pretty much optimally primes the USB signal no matter what the USB device is connected to.
You're right, a MacBook is not wine or cheese - they often get better with age, which isn't something I can say about my laptops over the years, which just get slower. :wink:
 
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Right. The age of the Macbook doesn't matter, it's not wine or cheese. All USB audio is only USB 2.0 anyways, a protocol which hasn't changed since it's release, likely decades.

The M Scaler's in-built USB is so good, it pretty much optimally primes the USB signal no matter what the USB device is connected to.
Good thing! MacBooks after 2015 no longer have optical out, so my 2014 MacBook Pro is going to last as long as I can keep it going. I hope the upcoming 2021 MacBook Pro restores the optical port, but I’m not holding my breath. Too bad really.
 
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Good thing! MacBooks after 2015 no longer have optical out, so my 2014 MacBook Pro is going to last as long as I can keep it going. I hope the upcoming 2021 MacBook Pro restores the optical port, but I’m not holding my breath. Too bad really.
I think they are expected to bring back some ports? I'm holding off on upgrading mine until they upgrade later this year.
 
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Good thing! MacBooks after 2015 no longer have optical out, so my 2014 MacBook Pro is going to last as long as I can keep it going. I hope the upcoming 2021 MacBook Pro restores the optical port, but I’m not holding my breath. Too bad really.

Yeah, not at all likely. In fact, Apple's eventual goal is to have everything be wireless and have no ports at all, not even USB. Granted, we aren't really near that yet I don't think, but Apple is likely to continue eliminating ports, versus adding them.
 
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I’m sure @ra990 is not trying to be snarky. I’ve been a Johnny come lately to a couple of long threads and been chided for asking a question that’s been answered somewhere in the previous 800 pages a number of times. I understand the frustration, but if it’s new to me I’ll ask after using the search function If I don’t find an answer. It can be frustrating to deal with repetitive questions so it’s helpful to say “I couldn’t find an answer with the search function”. Trust me, he’s a helpful person!
Thanks @Gadget67. It is a little frustrating seeing the same questions come up every other page. A simple search of "DAC AMP" on this thread will easily provide the answers.

I have been meaning to create a FAQ post for the TT2 with links to the best responses for each question, but never got the time. One day I will and then we can sticky that post on the first page. I have no doubt that people will still continue to ask those questions though :)

Apologies to @JM1979 if I came across as snarky, but that wasn't my intention. I'm glad you got the info you were seeking. Welcome to the TT2 club!
 
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OMG...I have definitely been down the audio science rabbit hole! I understand and respect the measurement process but I’m inclined to rely heavily on what I hear. The translation of sound through the ear canal to our brain is far more complex than some graph that tells me what I should be hearing.
Seriously. Like all one has to do is push your ears slightly from behind, so that they stick out more. Everything sounds different, which to me says ear shape, size, angle all impact sound and mean all other things being equal each person would hear things slightly differently from different external ears alone, let alone ear canal and other minor differences in genetics and even regions in the brain which process sound. I've loved universally hated headphones and have been meh or disliked universally loved ones. Some people say they can't even hear differences in DACs, which strikes me as odd. Even to someone like me with no music background or training and only a couple years in the hobby had no trouble hearing differences from Mojo, to Hugo 2, to TT2, as with the 3 R2R DACs I had at the same time once.
 
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Yeah, not at all likely. In fact, Apple's eventual goal is to have everything be wireless and have no ports at all, not even USB. Granted, we aren't really near that yet I don't think, but Apple is likely to continue eliminating ports, versus adding them.
Ports are handy on a ‘pro’ product and the rumours are quite strong. Hopefully the MagSafe connector might make a welcome return as well.

We shall see.
 

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