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I own RX6 speakers, with an Outlaw 2150 stereo reciever... and the trick is to add a powered subwoofer... why:
1) These speakers have small drives, meaning they will reproduce nicely the over 80Hz signal; anything below is artificially produced in the resonance chamber and delivered via the two bass reflex ports.
2) One cannot defy the laws of physics, hence, use them for what they can do best: mids and highs with accuracy and detail; and for that:
a) I filter them to over 80-100Hz (I prefer 100Hz, mostly) with Outlaw 2150 receiver's internal crossover,
b) connected a powered sub (outlaw ultra-12X) via receiver's subwoofer special port,
3) This layout of two fine (but small) speakers and one powered sub will make the bass sound natural not "enhanced" in the chamber by reflections and bounces against the internal walls; it also saves the small drives to work on low frequencies which they are not even supposed to handle:
a) the low frequencies sound a little "boomy" for the two speakers without subwoofer; I cannot hear the detailed texture of the low bass guitar string or deep low piano or organ
b) with subwoofer inserted and speakers crossovered at 100 Hz I can hear such a nice relaxed bass, with detail and texture, going to the real string vibration of the instrument... and it goes down to 16 Hz like that..
c) it is not about power (my sub amplifier is set to 25-30% of the max), it is all about the natural representation of the sound as it was recorded... you only need to balance the sub with the floorstands once...
4) And the icing on the cake is: the receiver does not have to handle the extra power of low frequencies (70% or so) which transfers to the powered sub 350W amplifier to deal with..!.. it has plenty of spare energy to drive the mids and highs in a relaxed, high fidelity manner (not that Outlaw would need that, as being one of the most powerful receivers on the market)....
.... and what a great sound it delivers !!
That is how you make a $2,300 system sound like a $50k + one.... and I'm very serious, no joke !
P.S. I could never understand how people keep saying the word "break-in" for electronics and speakers...it does not make any sense..
1) For electronics, there is no way a transistor, or any silicon device, or a capacitor to have to break-in after a period of time of use; the only thing that happens with electronics is to behave a little better after they are warmed up... but that takes between 20 min and 2 hours, depending on the electronic components inside; there is no way for electronics to sound better after 40 hours of use, or 100 hours, or that..
2) For the speaker it is something similar, they sound better after a time of use, but that is around 10-20 min of vibrations, not after a "time period of break-in"; why would they do that..?.. the materials will not become more flexible, or the coils will not slide smoother after 40 hours or 100 hours.. I've read reports of people who counted 600 hours of "break-in" and were convinced their equipment sounds better after that time..
In the past 40 years, I have listened to hundreds of systems, some new, some old, some used, some just out of box, and I can tell you they sound better or worse, more clear, or less, detailed, dynamic and the whole bit, because of the design, the assembly and the quality of the materials used....
Nothing more and nothing less... all this raw-raw with break-in periods is just to make somebody to appear they have such sensitive ears, that they can "feel" a difference in sound after 40 hours of total use... It is only to inflate some people's ego..
I would ask all these guys to try a blind test and see what they can actually differentiate in terms of sound quality....
1) These speakers have small drives, meaning they will reproduce nicely the over 80Hz signal; anything below is artificially produced in the resonance chamber and delivered via the two bass reflex ports.
2) One cannot defy the laws of physics, hence, use them for what they can do best: mids and highs with accuracy and detail; and for that:
a) I filter them to over 80-100Hz (I prefer 100Hz, mostly) with Outlaw 2150 receiver's internal crossover,
b) connected a powered sub (outlaw ultra-12X) via receiver's subwoofer special port,
3) This layout of two fine (but small) speakers and one powered sub will make the bass sound natural not "enhanced" in the chamber by reflections and bounces against the internal walls; it also saves the small drives to work on low frequencies which they are not even supposed to handle:
a) the low frequencies sound a little "boomy" for the two speakers without subwoofer; I cannot hear the detailed texture of the low bass guitar string or deep low piano or organ
b) with subwoofer inserted and speakers crossovered at 100 Hz I can hear such a nice relaxed bass, with detail and texture, going to the real string vibration of the instrument... and it goes down to 16 Hz like that..
c) it is not about power (my sub amplifier is set to 25-30% of the max), it is all about the natural representation of the sound as it was recorded... you only need to balance the sub with the floorstands once...
4) And the icing on the cake is: the receiver does not have to handle the extra power of low frequencies (70% or so) which transfers to the powered sub 350W amplifier to deal with..!.. it has plenty of spare energy to drive the mids and highs in a relaxed, high fidelity manner (not that Outlaw would need that, as being one of the most powerful receivers on the market)....
.... and what a great sound it delivers !!
That is how you make a $2,300 system sound like a $50k + one.... and I'm very serious, no joke !
P.S. I could never understand how people keep saying the word "break-in" for electronics and speakers...it does not make any sense..
1) For electronics, there is no way a transistor, or any silicon device, or a capacitor to have to break-in after a period of time of use; the only thing that happens with electronics is to behave a little better after they are warmed up... but that takes between 20 min and 2 hours, depending on the electronic components inside; there is no way for electronics to sound better after 40 hours of use, or 100 hours, or that..
2) For the speaker it is something similar, they sound better after a time of use, but that is around 10-20 min of vibrations, not after a "time period of break-in"; why would they do that..?.. the materials will not become more flexible, or the coils will not slide smoother after 40 hours or 100 hours.. I've read reports of people who counted 600 hours of "break-in" and were convinced their equipment sounds better after that time..
In the past 40 years, I have listened to hundreds of systems, some new, some old, some used, some just out of box, and I can tell you they sound better or worse, more clear, or less, detailed, dynamic and the whole bit, because of the design, the assembly and the quality of the materials used....
Nothing more and nothing less... all this raw-raw with break-in periods is just to make somebody to appear they have such sensitive ears, that they can "feel" a difference in sound after 40 hours of total use... It is only to inflate some people's ego..
I would ask all these guys to try a blind test and see what they can actually differentiate in terms of sound quality....