How does anyone get AKG parts in Canada now
Nov 4, 2019 at 4:22 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 8

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I recently purchased a pair of made in Austria Q701 headphones from a fellow member here and wanted to replace the rubber loops. After doing some research I found that people were able to order parts direct from AKG. I pulled the service manual, got the part number and then contacted AKG support. Within a day I received a short email telling me I needed to contact the Canadian distributor, Erikson Consumer, or JBL. I contacted Erikson who told me they are no longer the Canadian distributor and that I need to contact Samsung. I called Samsung, and they didn't understand what I was talking about and told me to check their parts store to get me off the line. I then called AKG, they said they would happily ship me the parts, for free even, if I have a US address. I do not. They again told me to contact Erikson Consumer. I then emailed AKG parts back to express my frustration with the situation. I was once again told to contact Erikson Consumer. I told them that they are not the distributor anymore and have not received a response. I have ordered the parts I need, but from Full Compass. They were very friendly and helpful, but the shipping cost was 25 dollars. Not something I want to do going forward since the parts were 3 dollars each.

Has anyone had any luck getting Samsung to sell replacement parts for any AKG products?
 
Nov 4, 2019 at 6:15 PM Post #2 of 8
Has anyone had any luck getting Samsung to sell replacement parts for any AKG products?

Whoever told you that was just coming from Business News and not actually knowing what's going on.

Samsung acquired Harman, which owns AKG, but the Samsung online parts store only has Samsung products. They might offer them, but it's not like the brands under the Harman umbrella corp are no longer separate entities from Samsung.

That's like assuming you can get any Bentley and Lamborghini parts through any VW or Audi dealership, or Rolls Royce parts through any BMW dealership. Hell, BMW might not even service 2020 Supras, nor will Toyota just service any 2020 Z4s.
 
Nov 4, 2019 at 6:47 PM Post #3 of 8
Whoever told you that was just coming from Business News and not actually knowing what's going on.

Samsung acquired Harman, which owns AKG, but the Samsung online parts store only has Samsung products. They might offer them, but it's not like the brands under the Harman umbrella corp are no longer separate entities from Samsung.

That's like assuming you can get any Bentley and Lamborghini parts through any VW or Audi dealership, or Rolls Royce parts through any BMW dealership. Hell, BMW might not even service 2020 Supras, nor will Toyota just service any 2020 Z4s.

Thanks, I didn't make the assumption that I could get parts from Samsung, I was told specifically by both JBL and Erikson Consumer that they are now the Canadian distributor for Canada and should be able to supply parts. I understand why Samsung wouldn't supply parts for AKG, but that now means there is no distributor in Canada. AKG is still convinced that Erikson is their Canadian distributor, so something needs to get straightened out between Samsung and AKG.
 
Nov 4, 2019 at 7:24 PM Post #4 of 8
Thanks, I didn't make the assumption that I could get parts from Samsung...

I said that about whoever you spoke to on the phone that told you Samsung would take over the parts based on the Harman acquisition deal, since I haven't even heard that Samsung will do it nor does their online parts store - as extensive as it is given we ordered everything from phone batteries to wok adapters for the stove at home from the same site - include any provision nor announcement for headphones or any AKG item.


I understand why Samsung wouldn't supply parts for AKG, but that now means there is no distributor in Canada. AKG is still convinced that Erikson is their Canadian distributor, so something needs to get straightened out between Samsung and AKG.

There's always a gap for these changes, especially when somebody somewhere is an idiot.

Like when NAD abruptly ended the distributorship of their partner in the Philippines because said partner kept on being bullheadedly lazy about servicing NAD CDPs with the problematic Sanyo (IIRC) transports despite being told that NAD actually had a service bulletin on it. Took about two months before the new distro was announced and first order of business wasn't even stocking stuff, but dealing with the backlogged CDPs the old distributor was too much of an arse to service.
 
Nov 4, 2019 at 7:39 PM Post #5 of 8
I said that about whoever you spoke to on the phone that told you Samsung would take over the parts based on the Harman acquisition deal, since I haven't even heard that Samsung will do it nor does their online parts store - as extensive as it is given we ordered everything from phone batteries to wok adapters for the stove at home from the same site - include any provision nor announcement for headphones or any AKG item.




There's always a gap for these changes, especially when somebody somewhere is an idiot.

Like when NAD abruptly ended the distributorship of their partner in the Philippines because said partner kept on being bullheadedly lazy about servicing NAD CDPs with the problematic Sanyo (IIRC) transports despite being told that NAD actually had a service bulletin on it. Took about two months before the new distro was announced and first order of business wasn't even stocking stuff, but dealing with the backlogged CDPs the old distributor was too much of an arse to service.

Ya sorry, I misread your original response. I also re-read mine and realized that is sounded a bit snarky, definitely not my intention, just really frustrated with this situation.

Hopefully they get it sorted out soon. I've talked to 5 different companies and they all say different things and direct me in a circle. I'm not going to get my hope up though since the acquisition was two years ago and the rep at AKG that I talked to on the phone with told me that Samsung didn't seem to know they existed. 3 AKG employees told me to contact Erikson, yet if you go on the AKG website and choose Canada as your region it just redirects to Samsung's website.
 
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Nov 7, 2019 at 6:01 PM Post #6 of 8
Just a quick update for anyone else who is looking for AKG parts. JAM Industries is indeed the distributor for AKG professional in Canada, despite what multiple people at their subsidiary, Erikson Consumer,told me. I had emailed Jam industries separately and they got back to me today with a quote for the inner headband assembly for the Q701. parts@jamindustries.com if you're looking for their contact. Thanks to AKG for getting me in contact with the correct people.
 
Nov 8, 2019 at 4:41 AM Post #7 of 8
I am really grateful you posted this. Let's see. Samsung acquired Harman in 2017. And Harman owns AKG. AKG in Canada used to be distributed by SC Media and B&J Music, but that fairly recently recently switched to Erikson Consumer, which is owned by JAM Industries. And JAM Industries was recently acquired by DCC, which is huge and has four divisions and 14 billion GBP/year in revenue and is based some time zones away in Dublin, not Canada. I don't understand why you had any difficulty finding someone who knew which way was up and who could help you. How could this be confusing? If you go to the Erikson Consumer site, you will find that under "Divisions" AKG is listed as a brand of the company. But if you click on "Brands," AKG does not appear. Details. Confusion. Customers lost in the woods.

I worked for a relatively small, in the scheme of things, U.S.-based, publicly traded laser manufacturer for a number of years. Our business was viciously competitive. We made fantastic technology, in my opinion, if I do say so myself, and that certainly sold a lot of lasers and lights. But what really put us over the top I think was our commitment to insane customer service. Customers all over the world had direct phone numbers and email addresses for most of senior management, service people, and nearly all of our MD consultants. Don't worry, everybody got paid, everybody got stock. What we found was, if you give out all your contact info freely and make everyone accessible, the customers almost never use it. But when they do, it is usually for a very good reason. At least that was what we experienced. Of course, we weren't the size of Toyota, we were fairly small. But we made it work. The customers loved it.

Right before I hung it up, a merger proposal appeared. It would have created the largest company in our business by a long shot. We and the board talked about it and carefully considered it. Ultimately , we decided to take a zero and remain independent. We left a bunch of money on the table. But the thing that really put that choice over the top was our fear and belief that this special relationship and reputation we had built with our customer base would be ruined by virtue of the sheer size of the new company. So we said no. We would stay small. Build great gear, take care of our customers, and still make plenty of money.

There was something I was taught during my training years by a wise elder. He said: "You know what the enemy of good is? The enemy of good is better."

Bigger isn't always better in business. Not for the customer. That is my belief. Senior management, the board, and shareholders may benefit greatly financially from a big M&A event, but often, the customers are left to fend for themselves. And we just were not going to do that to the people who had made us so successful.

So, I am glad you finally got someone to help you . But the fact is, they should have never made it so difficult for you to do so. These are multi-billion-dollar organizations now. They should have their act together. They should know what companies they have relationships with and what those relationships are. Who do we rep? Whos's our service guy or gal now? what about parts requests--are those the same now, or are we doing something else? There should've been piles of meetings and memos and emails and vmails and texts explaining all this in minute detail. Phone numbers. Email addresses. website links and contact info. Updating the "About Us" and "History" and "Support" parts of these websites must be done immediately. Anything less is just plain laziness. Put a whole freaking team on it for a week. Who cares? It's worth it and you can afford it. Take some freaking pride, people. It's embarrassing. And a good lesson in how not to "integrate" after a series of acquisitions. Details. It's always the details. And somebody didn't care enough to mind those details.
 
Nov 8, 2019 at 2:55 PM Post #8 of 8
I am really grateful you posted this. Let's see. Samsung acquired Harman in 2017. And Harman owns AKG. AKG in Canada used to be distributed by SC Media and B&J Music, but that fairly recently recently switched to Erikson Consumer, which is owned by JAM Industries. And JAM Industries was recently acquired by DCC, which is huge and has four divisions and 14 billion GBP/year in revenue and is based some time zones away in Dublin, not Canada. I don't understand why you had any difficulty finding someone who knew which way was up and who could help you. How could this be confusing? If you go to the Erikson Consumer site, you will find that under "Divisions" AKG is listed as a brand of the company. But if you click on "Brands," AKG does not appear. Details. Confusion. Customers lost in the woods.

I worked for a relatively small, in the scheme of things, U.S.-based, publicly traded laser manufacturer for a number of years. Our business was viciously competitive. We made fantastic technology, in my opinion, if I do say so myself, and that certainly sold a lot of lasers and lights. But what really put us over the top I think was our commitment to insane customer service. Customers all over the world had direct phone numbers and email addresses for most of senior management, service people, and nearly all of our MD consultants. Don't worry, everybody got paid, everybody got stock. What we found was, if you give out all your contact info freely and make everyone accessible, the customers almost never use it. But when they do, it is usually for a very good reason. At least that was what we experienced. Of course, we weren't the size of Toyota, we were fairly small. But we made it work. The customers loved it.

Right before I hung it up, a merger proposal appeared. It would have created the largest company in our business by a long shot. We and the board talked about it and carefully considered it. Ultimately , we decided to take a zero and remain independent. We left a bunch of money on the table. But the thing that really put that choice over the top was our fear and belief that this special relationship and reputation we had built with our customer base would be ruined by virtue of the sheer size of the new company. So we said no. We would stay small. Build great gear, take care of our customers, and still make plenty of money.

There was something I was taught during my training years by a wise elder. He said: "You know what the enemy of good is? The enemy of good is better."

Bigger isn't always better in business. Not for the customer. That is my belief. Senior management, the board, and shareholders may benefit greatly financially from a big M&A event, but often, the customers are left to fend for themselves. And we just were not going to do that to the people who had made us so successful.

So, I am glad you finally got someone to help you . But the fact is, they should have never made it so difficult for you to do so. These are multi-billion-dollar organizations now. They should have their act together. They should know what companies they have relationships with and what those relationships are. Who do we rep? Whos's our service guy or gal now? what about parts requests--are those the same now, or are we doing something else? There should've been piles of meetings and memos and emails and vmails and texts explaining all this in minute detail. Phone numbers. Email addresses. website links and contact info. Updating the "About Us" and "History" and "Support" parts of these websites must be done immediately. Anything less is just plain laziness. Put a whole freaking team on it for a week. Who cares? It's worth it and you can afford it. Take some freaking pride, people. It's embarrassing. And a good lesson in how not to "integrate" after a series of acquisitions. Details. It's always the details. And somebody didn't care enough to mind those details.

Thank you for this response. It's good to know that I'm not just crazy or an overly demanding customer. Having worked for large corporations that were bought out by even larger corporations, I've definitely seen stuff like this happen before but not to this degree. The akg site lists B&J as the Canadian distributor, 2 AKg tell me it's Erikson, Erikson tells me it's Samsung, AKG's website redirects to Samsung if you choose Canada as your region, and a third AKG employee actually gives me the correct information, JAM Industries. Most people would have given up, and since I bought new elastics from Full Compass, o would have too. The R on the headband was missing one of the legs and it's bothered me just enough that I decided to keep pursuing this to get a new headband assembly. I even called the local music store that I buy a lot of my production gear from and they said it looked like their distributor has changed but they don't know who the new distributor is supposed to be. He then dug deeper and said they aren't even offering AKG products anymore. He didn't elaborate further but I can only assume it's because they have no idea who is able to provide them going forward. It's a mess, and it really hurts AKG's brand.
 

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