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Originally Posted by vvanrij /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well measurements are crap in comparing and judging audio equipment,
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Why? It's better to have measurements next to all the vague and diffuse comments based on terminology that isn't even used in the same way by everyone. Makes it easier to see what we're talking about. Of course the Frequency Response Chart doesn't tell the whole story, but it really helps getting an orientation.
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Originally Posted by vvanrij /img/forum/go_quote.gif
though I do get your point of the overemphasized bass. But my main point is that EVERYBODY thinks the bass is extreme, but every owner except you till now has got the bass settled down to a normal level. You should always speak from your own experience, and this is my experience.
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Are you making a list or something? And are you trying to tell me that the PRO 900's bass has gone down by 10-15 db during burn-in? I doubt that's true, I'd rather believe in different versions of the same headphone or in varying quality of production to begin with. I remember someone buying a "defective" Edition 9 that sounded odd and when he sent it to Ultrasone for a checkup, they replaced the drivers. After that it sounded totally different.
Well, I'm willing to revert my statement, should my PRO 900 really change that much with burn-in. I shall report back on this some time. But I really doubt it.
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Originally Posted by vvanrij /img/forum/go_quote.gif
And don't give me any of the bs that I'm getting 'used' to loads of bass, because all my other headphones are lying here next to me, and I don't suddenly think they are bass shy at all, when I directly compare them!
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MY EXPERIENCE shows me that there's a factor called brain-burn-in. There's short-term brain-burn-in and long-term brain-burn-in, both contribute to getting used to a headphone's signature and not finding it odd, shrill, bassy, whatever after a certain amount of time anymore.
That doesn't explain what you're hearing comparing the PRO 900 to an SR325i. But frankly I don't know you or your methods of comparison, so I can't figure out from here what might be wrong or not.
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Originally Posted by ph0rk
Hmm. I'm looking for a roughly equivalent level closed can to the HD650, and I'm wary of Denon build quality - could a pro 900 hang with an HD650? (Probably driven by a GS-1). I don't expect it to sound the same, but I'd prefer it not to sound like a DT770
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The HD650 is much more mids-centric with overall much less bass, especially deep bass. I also have a measurement of the HD650 in my gallery.
The PRO 900 sounds much like what I remember from the old DT770 Pro, albeit a bit more extreme. The newer DT770 Consumer Edition is supposed to be more neutral.