[FooFighter]

Available for preorder on Magna HiFi with a slightly informative webpage, and more pix.

https://magnahifi.com/holoaudio-red-network-streamer-ddc-i2s-dsd1024/

Thx for this reference!
Reading the native sample rates it seems to support max Holo Spring/May DSD sample rates but only 768khz PCM instead of 1.5Mhz
"...16-24bit 44.1-768kHz – Native DSD64 – 1024"
On another note I appreciate the option of digital media conversion.
That means I can for example plug in my IPhone / IPad and play Apple Music from there and Red will transform into whatever target like I2S, SPDIF etc (that's how I understand it) without me needing to switch my DACs USB cable from one source to another.
On the other hand the build-in PI will allow network streaming of Tidal Connect or functioning as a Roon-Bridge.
What I am missing in the specs is a reference for NAA (HQPlayer Client) functionality which I ve read elsewhere in this thread.
Mentioning Qobuz as supported streaming service makes me question the use case other than Roon as Qobuz service implementation is lacking any native broadcasting capabilities such as Tidal Connect or is there a Qobuz Client built-into the firmware?

 

[incredulousity]

I see that, but I think I have read that it goes up to 1.5k in PCM elsewhere, which makes sense if it can take DSD1024. Time will tell, I guess.

 

[genefruit]

Available for preorder on Magna HiFi with a slightly informative webpage, and more pix.

https://magnahifi.com/holoaudio-red-network-streamer-ddc-i2s-dsd1024/

IN

 

[FooFighter]

768 is disappointing but I expect it's a hardware limitation rather than a design choice. Passing

That's an intersting point!
I hope it's just an error in the specs

 

[kingoftown1]

It'll be interesting to see how this subjectively compares to the Singxer SU-6. I've been looking for something that can match the SU-6 sound quality, but with higher sampling rates. I wonder, given Holo's history, if mod kits to accept external DC power supplies are a future possibility.

 

[Delta9K]

implementation is lacking any native broadcasting capabilities such as Tidal Connect or is there a Qobuz Client built-into the firmware?

Steaming services	Deezer, Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal, Web radios
Others services	AirPlay 2 Spotify Connect Tidal Connect Roon Ready

They call it out separately, but yes somewhat confusing

 

[incredulousity]

A reviewer who has it says that it is the only streamer he has tested, that measures better than Rockna Wavedream Net. Whether that has anything to do with sound, remains to be seen. IIRC this was in reference to jitter.

 

[DJJEZ]

Available for preorder on Magna HiFi with a slightly informative webpage, and more pix.

https://magnahifi.com/holoaudio-red-network-streamer-ddc-i2s-dsd1024/

get it from wildism audio for $755. way cheaper than magna

 

[GoldenSound]

I wonder how!? not trying to diminush the Holo of course..

Not sure, Jeff seems to know how to design stuff very well in terms of clocking it seems.
May/Spring 3 PLL is kinda bonkers, and jitter performance on both DACs was basically perfect too.

Available for preorder on Magna HiFi with a slightly informative webpage, and more pix.

https://magnahifi.com/holoaudio-red-network-streamer-ddc-i2s-dsd1024/

Reading the native sample rates it seems to support max Holo Spring/May DSD sample rates but only 768khz PCM instead of 1.5Mhz
"...16-24bit 44.1-768kHz – Native DSD64 – 1024"

Worth noting that the sample rate limits there are just for the I2S output.
With USB out it works with PCM1.536mhz/DSD1024 just fine.
The limitation with I2S seems to be a stability thing. I2S LVDS (the external I2S connection we use between DDCs and DACs) isn't really supposed to work in the first place. I2S was designed for internal communication, not over a longer external one.
At higher rates like 768khz a lot of the time it'll be unstable and you'll end up getting static playing if things get desynced. I imagine at 1.536mhz it's probably just not possible to have it work reliably at all. Otherwise Jeff would have included it given as the May/Spring 3 do accept 1.536mhz over I2S.

What I am missing in the specs is a reference for NAA (HQPlayer Client) functionality which I ve read elsewhere in this thread.

Not sure what the official RED OS image supports (I have a copy but have not tried it yet), but you can indeed run HQP on the RED.
Either via USB, or over the network by just running an NAA enabled OS.
I personally recommend RopieeeXL. It supports Roon, Airplay, HQP NAA, Spotify Connect, UPNP, MPD and basically anything you could want, with minimal setup. Just flash, turn on the features you want and it's done.
It also allows you to switch between roon and HQP seamlessly which is really nice.

768 is disappointing but I expect it's a hardware limitation rather than a design choice. Passing

See above, it does 1.536mhz

 

[incredulousity]

get it from wildism audio for $755. way cheaper than magna

I'll wait until I can order it from Tim at Kutsune, as I am in the US. I am really happy with how my stack works off my M1 MacBook Pro, but at this price, it hurts less to try a (potentially) very good streamer at a lower entry cost than many options.

 

[genefruit]

I'll wait until I can order it from Tim at Kutsune, as I am in the US. I am really happy with how my stack works off my M1 MacBook Pro, but at this price, it hurts less to try a (potentially) very good streamer at a lower entry cost than many options.

With USB out at PCM1.536mhz/DSD1024 confirmed I'm in. Now for Apple to release the M2 mini...

 

[lsantista]

get it from wildism audio for $755. way cheaper than magna

also way cheaper than a ultra rendu. And it comes with internal LPS. and it is a DDC. and it doesn't look so boring / is ridiculous for placement (because three cables coming from all places weight more than your streamer).
But, since I will be using it as NAA, now I wonder of the learning curve with new OS image (what is even this?!), etc. With the rendus it was pretty easy to select via sonicorbiter and then on HQP.

 

[FooFighter]

Steaming services	Deezer, Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal, Web radios
Others services	AirPlay 2 Spotify Connect Tidal Connect Roon Ready

They call it out separately, but yes somewhat confusing

Can you pls explain?
There's no "Qobuz-Connect" solution AFAIK.
Only way would be
a) to provide a Qobuz Client API in the Red firmware
b) only provide an UPNP service and needing an additional 3rd party app like Mconnect to stream Qobuz

 

[FooFighter]

get it from wildism audio for $755. way cheaper than magna

Import taxes + currency exchange = same price eventually?

 

[fixated]

Will wait for the reviews to come out as I've been looking for a decent streamers for a while now and this would fit well with my current stack (appearance wise atleast !)