Hip Hop: An Analysis

Feb 18, 2011 at 11:31 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 108

Ckaz

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To say music is important is about the biggest understatement one can make.  Music in itself is something that can define cultures, unite nations, and most importantly, it can find its way into every human being’s heart. There is a reason why music can be found in so many genres, and even more sub-genres on top of that; it is due to the enormously vast and universal legion of listeners who treat their ears to its musical... musicality. Anyway, one such genre is called Hip Hop, and like most things it has its own complex groundwork that makes it all the more interesting. This particular writer happens to have a passion for said genre of music, and in turn has decided to compose a write up of where this music is at, where it is going, and how far it has come. By doing so, I hope to enlighten the ignorant, shed light on the misconceptions, and quite possibly convert a few readers in the process. All I ask is that you understand that no one person can know all things about… well, anything really and even if someone could, it would be impossible to cram it all into one write-up. So, if I fail to mention your favourite artists time and time again, all I ask is that you please bear with me.
 
                Since the intricate history of Hip-Hop spans over more than a few decades, it seems best to cover its years in a time-line fashion. What better place to start then with the beginning. 
 
                Hip Hop has its roots in African American culture, and that’s a very important distinction. The genre itself isn’t African, nor is it American. No, it is a culmination of the two that came as a result of African Americans asserting their place within mainstream American culture. It was at this point (late 1970’s) that the African American culture really needed something to identify themselves with, something that they could call their own; they chose to do so with music.
 
People often ask where Hip hop draws its influences, but that’s a complicated question. It is important to understand that hip hop basics are comprised of two main elements; samples, and synthesized drums. Artists came under lots of pressure from the media because it was thought that sampling was stealing, and that it lacked creativity and originality therefore excluding itself from music (for those of you who don’t know, sampling is the process of taking a ‘loop’ from an old, typically unknown song, and applying it to a hip hop beat). See, at that time it was hard for people to realize that in sampling music, hip hop artists were not only paying tribute to great musicians of the past, but that they had invented the high-watermark of music ingenuity.  With Hip Hop giving people something to cultivate and own exclusively, it acted as a testament to all that they didn’t yet have. That’s where the synthesised drums came in. Some of the greatest DJ’s of all time produced beats in their basements. This wasn’t music made in a studio with a live band; it was a guy with a drum pad and a record scratcher. Problem is, at the time those synthesized drum beats only existed to the general public in a largely basic, unrefined form. It is that roughness, that bluntness, that defines the hip hop sound.
 
                Hip Hop started off as being original in its un-originality. By that I’m referring to the way that by sampling music and using low-fi, 8-bit recording machines, the genre was able to emerge as something entirely its own.
 
                Hip Hop is a genre of music that has evolved, and in some cases managed to do a full revolution with its progression. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince preached the idea of bringing people together with music, in hopes of creating unity and strength among the African-American people. It was in the mid 80’s that MC’s started focusing on proving their prowess over one another. Though this may have started out as benign, the bragging soon escalated. It didn’t take long for an MC to put aside his microphone and pick up his 9mm in an effort to prove superiority. Around this same time, west coast rap was starting to emerge, pioneered by the group N.W.A. This sparked a feud that was destined to last for decades. Boogie Down Productions, headed by the legendary KRS-One in the late 80’s, was one of the first Hip Hop groups that started what would be a lasting trend of more aggressive MC’ing. Though artists like De La Soul and A Tribe Called Quest are still considered legends, their laid-back, jazz influenced style simply couldn’t maintain hence the niche that they have now become.
 
                Kool G Rap is the originator of what is commonly known as ‘Mafioso Rap’. Mafia rap, in other words, is the romanticizing of the drug and crime underworld. It was inspired by modern American gangsters such as Al Capone and the likes... even the G in Kool G Rap stands for Giancana, a Chicago mobster from the late 50’s and 60’s. It didn’t take long for Jay-Z to follow suit with his first album ‘Reasonable Doubt’ which brought Mafioso rap from the underground more into the Hip Hop mainstream. Iconic alcoholic drinks, such as Crystal, taking up the majority of lyrical content was an indicator to the course that Hip Hop was heading. The Mafioso sub-genre marked the transition with which Hip Hop became Rap. True MC’s started to dwindle as did lyrical content that contained any kind of real meaning.
 
                Fast forward to the early 90’s. Tupac and The Notorious B.I.G. are soon to be dead and Wu Tang Clan has recently released their acclaimed 36 Chambers album. It is important that everyone understands the significance of this time period. Just about every famous line that was to be rhymed in the years to come would be influenced by a record that came out of this late 80’s to mid 90’s era. Consider this; the word ‘sick’ used as a positive adjective, or the phrase ‘9mm’ in reference to a gun. Those two phrases were just some of the prolific utterances that were to be conceived by KRS-One. The influence of Biggie Smalls need not even be mentioned. Suffice it to say he is one of the few rappers that could ever be considered a G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time). Many African American people were still living in a state of unemployment and near poverty. There was a huge community of people that didn’t watch the news and that didn’t read the paper. They derived their world views and political opinions from what was being blasted from their boom boxes. Now consider the implications of ‘screw the Police’ becoming a number one hit record. If Mos Def was rapping about water shortages at this time, maybe things would have turned out differently.
 
                Fast forward again to the 21st century. This is the era of big money, big cars, and big jewellery. Even in recent years where most people view Hip Hop as having fallen off, its influence is undeniable. From the clothes we wear, to the man running the United States of America, Rap culture has made its mark.
 
                I personally have a burning hate for what Rap has done to itself, and more importantly, what the listeners have done to Rap. It was in the early 2000’s that being different became the cool thing to do. Massive amounts of youth found Rap music to be an outlet in which they could be different from society, but still fit in at the same time. Record labels along with the media found a goldmine in this. Rappers became utter pawns, giving up complete control to whatever happened to be the big trend at the time. Now, I’m in support of the pursuit of money, I think it’s great; but modern rappers managed to let it engulf them to the point that music was no longer an element in the tracks they were producing.
 
                Fast forward one last time to around 2008. Here we see the genre of Hip Hop making its final steps to completing its revolution. It’s had its ups and it’s had its downs, but like all things it seems it must return to what it was in its early stages. Hip Hop has seen a modern re-birth, mostly credited to the era of the indie sub-culture that we youth live in today. Listening to the radio is the least cool thing one can do, and in this we have veered from the rap mainstream. Nowadays, it’s all about the blogs. At first, these blogs featured new music content from rappers people hadn’t heard of, and it gave them a sense of being in the know.
 
                And here we arrive in the present day. Artists like Drake and Wiz Khalifa are considered ‘real rap’ because they can relate to the youth, and Eminem is considered a God because he raps about ‘real things’. It is still too early for the imprint left by mainstream rap to have come close to disappearing. Every African American in his late teens still thinks he has an inherent ‘rap’ gene making him destined to spit fire the moment he is conceived in the womb, and as a result we managed to come dangerously close to the point where there were more rappers than there were listeners.
 
                As for where rap is headed, that’s not something that anyone can be sure of. However in my humble opinion, I see rap traveling in the direction of more and more sub-genres. Female vocals will move from soulful choruses to melodic ad-lib accompaniments. Live instruments (actual people playing actual music) will become the standard. It won’t take long for Hip Hop to become the equivalent of clothes, everyone will have their own preference that has its own distinct style, though no matter how numerous these sub-genres become they will still be a product of past influence.
 
                Anyway, one quick glance at my current word count tells me it’s time to wrap it up (pun intended). We’ve gone through Hip Hop’s roots, its golden age and its darkest moments and in the end we wound up where we started off. Hip Hop is still the music with which youth want to identify themselves with. The game may have changed, what with kids like Blair Mattis as our self-proclaimed rap gurus, but it’s important to remember how this culture was started and why it has become more than just a fad. Once we come to understand that, we can hope to move forward with new genres while still honouring the past.
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 12:50 AM Post #3 of 108
I have to disagree.

African Americans have developed several genres of music. Jazz, blues, ragtime, gospel, and even rock came from African traditions. Further, traditional African music still exists as does the more recent Afropop. There has also been influence in American folk. African influence is everywhere in American music. Limiting it to rap/hip hop just isn't accurate.

Second, you gloss over sampling. Let's be honest here, sampling is not a creative endeavor. It is taking part of another, original, creative work and making a copy. It requires no music composition, knowledge of music theory or the skill of playing an instrument. Further, rapping is mostly a spoken-word style. It does not require the ability to sing or any knowledge of music.

Most of rap/hip hop is strictly an assembly-line affair. Sample a catchy phrase written by someone else, lay it over a bog-standard disco beat, then assemble clichés about race, poverty, violence, drugs, women, etc.

Since music education is so poor or nonexistent these days, a lot of people mistake that for "creativity." It is not. To label it as such is practically an insult to the great African American musicians and composers who mostly pioneered American music. You cannot even begin to compare the most popular rappers to someone like Miles Davis. Davis actually composed music and was a damned fine musician. I can't think of a rapper who does either.

Rap/hip hop may be popular, but that does not mean there's any artistic merit. It's assembly-line music put out for profit and little else.

The reason rap/hip hop isn't taken seriously is because there's no music composition, nothing musically interesting, no musicianship, no vocal talent, and the lyrics are a tired grab-bag of clichés from 20 years ago.

Genres that are taken seriously feature original compositions played by actual musicians.

Genres that aren't taken seriously are rehashed commercial tropes designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like boy bands and advertising jingles. Those aren't designed to be art. They're designed to move products. Rap/hip hop isn't shy about this, either. You'll find plenty of bragging about selling product in the lyrics. Which isn't terribly different from a jingle to sell hamburgers or cars.

You probably weren't around in the 1980s, but the hair metal thing was huge. But it was just a bunch of cheap, commercial music designed to sell CDs. Everyone laughs about it now and doesn't take it seriously. Rap/hip hop will be laughed at in another 20 years.

As a small nit, the 9mm was not popularized by rap. It was introduced in 1902 by Georg Luger in Germany. It gained popularity and use through two World Wars.
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM Post #4 of 108
^ That's really generalized and only judges the stuff you hear on the radio... Hip-hop cant be artistic?  really?
 
Also to "It's assembly-line music put out for profit and little else," there's plenty of good hip-hop artists who dont make any profit for what they do. Again, I think you generalized a lot of mainstream hip-hop and making it represent hip-hop as a whole. There's so many styles of hip-hop which do not fit the descriptions that you described.
 
Now im not going to compare different genres and say which is better; that's not the point of my post. There's things that i agree but to generalize hip-hop like that shows that you havent broadened your hip-hop playlist.
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM Post #6 of 108
"Davis actually composed music and was a damned fine musician. I can't think of a rapper who does either."
 
You simply haven't been paying attention then. You should avoid even having an opinion on rap, because it is clear you have almost no knowledge of it.
 
As for the original analysis, I don;t have an opinion because I just glanced at it. Rap can be great. Rap is often awful. Rap is the same as all other music in this way.
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 8:08 PM Post #8 of 108


Quote:
I have to disagree.

African Americans have developed several genres of music. Jazz, blues, ragtime, gospel, and even rock came from African traditions. Further, traditional African music still exists as does the more recent Afropop. There has also been influence in American folk. African influence is everywhere in American music. Limiting it to rap/hip hop just isn't accurate.

Second, you gloss over sampling. Let's be honest here, sampling is not a creative endeavor. It is taking part of another, original, creative work and making a copy. It requires no music composition, knowledge of music theory or the skill of playing an instrument. Further, rapping is mostly a spoken-word style. It does not require the ability to sing or any knowledge of music.

Most of rap/hip hop is strictly an assembly-line affair. Sample a catchy phrase written by someone else, lay it over a bog-standard disco beat, then assemble clichés about race, poverty, violence, drugs, women, etc.

Since music education is so poor or nonexistent these days, a lot of people mistake that for "creativity." It is not. To label it as such is practically an insult to the great African American musicians and composers who mostly pioneered American music. You cannot even begin to compare the most popular rappers to someone like Miles Davis. Davis actually composed music and was a damned fine musician. I can't think of a rapper who does either.

Rap/hip hop may be popular, but that does not mean there's any artistic merit. It's assembly-line music put out for profit and little else.

The reason rap/hip hop isn't taken seriously is because there's no music composition, nothing musically interesting, no musicianship, no vocal talent, and the lyrics are a tired grab-bag of clichés from 20 years ago.

Genres that are taken seriously feature original compositions played by actual musicians.

Genres that aren't taken seriously are rehashed commercial tropes designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like boy bands and advertising jingles. Those aren't designed to be art. They're designed to move products. Rap/hip hop isn't shy about this, either. You'll find plenty of bragging about selling product in the lyrics. Which isn't terribly different from a jingle to sell hamburgers or cars.

You probably weren't around in the 1980s, but the hair metal thing was huge. But it was just a bunch of cheap, commercial music designed to sell CDs. Everyone laughs about it now and doesn't take it seriously. Rap/hip hop will be laughed at in another 20 years.

As a small nit, the 9mm was not popularized by rap. It was introduced in 1902 by Georg Luger in Germany. It gained popularity and use through two World Wars.



This post is quite simply not worth my time. If you so wish, I could counter your argument in a constructive manner.. but with a close minded attitude such as yours it really wouldn't be of any use.
I'll be frank in saying that with any other member of the forum, all my respect for said member would have flown out the window with a post like that. However I am familiar with your ever valuable presence on the forums and as such I am restraining my judgement, at least for now. You very well might have said that out of a true form of ingorance, in which case I would be happy to help you gain a more thorough understanding of Hip Hop.
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 9:28 PM Post #9 of 108
I have a hard time considering rap/hip-hop as music because of much of what Uncle Erik pointed out, i.e. there is severe lack of musicianship. Of course this may be a broad generalization but I have heard a fair amount of rap from my friends who tried to change my mind about this but it hasn't swayed me. If someone could post some youtube links or something here where there are high standards of musicianship involved (vocal ability, having multiple instruments, cohesion and evidence of songwriting ability etc) I'd be willing to give it a listen but I doubt it will change my opinion. I am willing to be open minded about it though.
 
When I say I don't consider rap to be music (and I don't mean this in a derogatory way).  More like uncle Erik alluded to, a form of spoken word or poetry. Which is neither good or bad, I have heard alot of powerful stuff that my friend played me relating to race issues, addressing injustice and so on which I appreciated alot, but I still have a hard time considering it music.  
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 10:15 PM Post #10 of 108
Then list some examples. I'll check them out.

What I'm looking for:

1. Original composition. Composition is not taking a musical phrase from someone else.
2. Development of the composition. Not just three or four catchy bars, but where a musical phrase is developed and explored.
3. Musicianship. Someone playing an instrument or two.
4. Avoiding clichés.
5. Lyrics that can be interpreted on multiple levels.

It would also be nice to see an artist or two who are capable of performing other genres.

I should say that I've paid attention to the genre for over 20 years. It was interesting back then, but stagnated into clichés and went nowhere. I don't listen to commercial radio. I do pull up streams and occasionally check out the well-reviewed albums. Still haven't found anything worth listening to.

As for being close-minded, I've changed my religion and politics over the years. I even drastically reconsidered my lifestyle and lost half of my bodyweight a few years back. Change and reinterpretation is not a problem. Show me evidence of the five points above and I might change my mind. Would you rather hurl insults or convince someone?

If you guys contend there's artistic merit, go ahead and back your claims up.
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 10:19 PM Post #11 of 108


Quote:
1. Original composition. Composition is not taking a musical phrase from someone else.
2. Development of the composition. Not just three or four catchy bars, but where a musical phrase is developed and explored.
3. Musicianship. Someone playing an instrument or two.
4. Avoiding clichés.
5. Lyrics that can be interpreted on multiple levels.
 


I agree with all of this, I think it is absolutely necessary for music to have most of the above components (instrumental music does not need lyrics but the music speaks for itself on several levels). 
 
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM Post #13 of 108

 
Quote:
Then list some examples. I'll check them out.

What I'm looking for:

1. Original composition. Composition is not taking a musical phrase from someone else.
2. Development of the composition. Not just three or four catchy bars, but where a musical phrase is developed and explored.
3. Musicianship. Someone playing an instrument or two.
4. Avoiding clichés.
5. Lyrics that can be interpreted on multiple levels.

It would also be nice to see an artist or two who are capable of performing other genres.

I should say that I've paid attention to the genre for over 20 years. It was interesting back then, but stagnated into clichés and went nowhere. I don't listen to commercial radio. I do pull up streams and occasionally check out the well-reviewed albums. Still haven't found anything worth listening to.

As for being close-minded, I've changed my religion and politics over the years. I even drastically reconsidered my lifestyle and lost half of my bodyweight a few years back. Change and reinterpretation is not a problem. Show me evidence of the five points above and I might change my mind. Would you rather hurl insults or convince someone?

If you guys contend there's artistic merit, go ahead and back your claims up.


+1  I've tried to understand hip hop (I like a lot of different styles of music) but even the so called good "old school" hip hop and rap albums of the 90s that I tried to like did nothing for me.  Repetitive music, mostly disgusting or ignorant lyrics and a bad or average singing voice
 
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 10:36 PM Post #14 of 108
Let me start by saying I disagree with Uncle Erik. At the same time, those of you condemning him are not doing much to help either. In addition, though I don't think your assessment was bad, Ckaz, to be fair it really only skims through the more mainstream artists, and yes I would consider ATCQ and Kool G Rap to be among the "mainstream" artists to anyone who listens to any hip hop beyond Lil Wayne and Drake.
 
Some songs I like to show people who don't think much of hip hop are
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrksy-kgOU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyoYf7rZVGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ckdq8EvHc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EkNlxKllvE
 
the sound quality (youtube's fault, my copies sound much better) is pretty horrible, but you get the gist of it.
 
To say sampling doesn't require any semblance of thought or knowledge is something I disagree with. I can see where you're coming from, but an extremely large portion of hip hop songs have samples interjected only occasionally or as part of the beat; few songs are simply other songs taken and looped.
 
Spoken Word? Sure. I don't think there's anything wrong with that though, and it does have a flow/rhythm. Also, not all hip hop has to have words if you ask me.
 
There are some groups that actually play instruments, I can dig up some names if you want. The Roots, for instance. However, I don't feel this is critical for a genre to be considered "real" music. I assume you regard electronic and similar genres in the same way as hip hop?
 
Regarding lyrics, looking beyond the surface you'll see many artists that talk about more than money, alcohol, and how to be disparaging towards women. I think the songs I posted above show this a bit.
 
It's obvious that as hip hop grew, the corporations got a hold of them and started a major shift. It became more of a business, and to succeed we all know it means catering to the largest group of people. They asked for the BS that we are seeing today in the media, so that's what they'll get.
 
I think I covered the points you mentioned, Uncle Erik. I don't think I can convert you or anyone else over, but I hope you'll at least give my post the same respect I gave yours and consider my points.
 
 
[edit: wow, I took way too long writing this post. I shouldn't have stopped halfway to play games, lol.]
 
Mar 7, 2011 at 10:52 PM Post #15 of 108


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrksy-kgOU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyoYf7rZVGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ckdq8EvHc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EkNlxKllvE
 



Those are pretty good, I find myself enjoying the music but then the rapping kicks in and I get jarred. I think that is my problem with it, rap in its form and mode of transmission is antithetical to what music is, its one tone and lacks dynamism. When they try incorporate music into it, it doesn't really flow. In fact if you notice, for 3 of those 4 tracks the music is secondary (playing when there isn't any rap) rather than being an organic whole. It's almost like 'hey, lets throw in some music here, stop it and rap, and then throw some music in here again'. I find myself wishing that there was no rap in any of the above tracks (barring the first one which I didn't like at all) so I could just enjoy the music. I think thats where the problem lies for me, rap as a vocal medium is limited in its musical application. And what it is limited to once again comes back to the original issue with sampling, repetitive beats etc
 

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