Yikes
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As previously mentioned aural audition I'm fairly certain that the company is History.
Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif high end, to me, is when you can't really complain about the sound. I think I'm at that point with the gamma2 and m3. I can't find A SINGLE THING to complain about. that's saying something |
Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif I just built an 'op amp based' M3 and its every bit as good sounding as the b22 I also have. in fact, the m3 has a lower (noticeably) noise floor.. |
Originally Posted by LeMat /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's a good question (but why only rudistor ?)... but watch out for the answers wich can be biased because of its DIY nature. I mean, if I was able to achieve such a project, I would probably be proud enough to skew my judgment and favor my own realization |
Originally Posted by dsavitsk /img/forum/go_quote.gif I find it a little amazing that either of these has a noise floor that is audible at all. |
I'd take that to mean, hopefully, that something is operating out of spec. |
Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif the thing can sink serious current into spkrs and not break a sweat. the only thing missing is the ground buffer that you get when you run balanced OR 3ch mode. I'm not a big fan of stereo separation (I listen to speakers that sit in a real-world room and have natural crossfeed; getting 1000db sep is a red herring, imho, and is totally unnecessary). its design is superior but I'm not sure the sound is. to me, beyond a certain level, throwing 'more' at a problem does not solve the problem any more. once its solved, its solved I know that MOST of diy is about over-over-overkill. tangent said it pretty well, something to the effect of 'professional products often are designed to JUST meet their needs but DIY often just goes 'farther than needed' to ensure that you've covered you bases'. rather than knowing how much 'overkill' you need, DIYers just throw the whole kitchen sink at the problem. that way they know they have overdesigned things but its not really the *elegant* way to solve the problem. is it elegant to drive a sherman tank to the supermarket to pick up groceries? sure, it will work and you'll get there and back, but its a bit obscene in how overblown that solution is. I sometimes (hmm, often) feel that way about diy approaches. I don't hear any problems when I listen to my b22 (other than some slight floor noise level) but with the m3, I have ZERO complaints. I just can't find a single thing to complain about on the m3, especially the noise. I'm gobsmacked how clean the signal is from this supposed mid-fi amp. high end, to me, is when you can't really complain about the sound. I think I'm at that point with the gamma2 and m3. I can't find A SINGLE THING to complain about. that's saying something |
Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't hear any problems when I listen to my b22 (other than some slight floor noise level) but with the m3, I have ZERO complaints. I just can't find a single thing to complain about on the m3, especially the noise. I'm gobsmacked how clean the signal is from this supposed mid-fi amp. high end, to me, is when you can't really complain about the sound. I think I'm at that point with the gamma2 and m3. I can't find A SINGLE THING to complain about. that's saying something |
Originally Posted by IPodPJ /img/forum/go_quote.gif Then perhaps your B22 isn't functioning properly. Maybe it's not grounded properly, maybe there's a loose wire, maybe there's a bad part... but a properly functioning B22 should be extremely quiet. I've seen your pictures and it looks very well built, though. |
Originally Posted by IPodPJ /img/forum/go_quote.gif Then perhaps your B22 isn't functioning properly. Maybe it's not grounded properly, maybe there's a loose wire, maybe there's a bad part... but a properly functioning B22 should be extremely quiet. I've seen your pictures and it looks very well built, though. |
Originally Posted by Yikes /img/forum/go_quote.gif And I'm puzzled that it seems like there are those here who somehow believe that the amount of noise is the only (or most significant) difference between amplifiers. |
however use caution when weighing peoples opinions concerning their own DIY projects. The proud parent syndrome hits hard where DIY is concerned. |
As in a Parents Child is always the Smartest/Beautiful/Handsome Etc. It's human nature, when you pour your own blood sweat and tears into a product you are predisposed to a fairly extreme bias. |
Originally Posted by Yikes /img/forum/go_quote.gif ... I however use caution when weighing peoples opinions concerning their own DIY projects. The proud parent syndrome hits hard where DIY is concerned. As in a Parents Child is always the Smartest/Beautiful/Handsome Etc. It's human nature, when you pour your own blood sweat and tears into a product you are predisposed to a fairly extreme bias. |