HiFiMan Susvara
Sep 29, 2021 at 9:49 AM Post #11,552 of 25,508
You’re in luck if you have a pet as well. I know a vet that doubles as an audiologist specializing in kangaroos and humans with headphone addiction. :)
Sorry no pet. But i’m good.
cheers
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 10:35 AM Post #11,553 of 25,508
Utopias punchy? Tell me what city you’re in and I’ll Google an audiologist for you.
I'd categorise Utopia as punchy headphone as well among TOTL options. Definitely not the biggest bass quantity, but the dynamic punch is nice, and help to make me feel engaging.

Last time I checked, my audiologist said that i'm all good :L3000:
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 10:36 AM Post #11,554 of 25,508
Pass labs amps are known to be on the smooth side of the spectrum, especially their class A variations.

I can agree with that, but I'd say that this applies to class A designs in general. At least I haven't yet heard a class A amp that would sound harsh and piercing. Some were quite polite though :wink:

dynamic sounding Accuphase.

Older Accuphase products I remember were on the soft and dense side, so more in line with class A, but recent amps of that manufacturer are said to be stiffer and leaner class AB types. If I may ask, where would you put your E-380?
 
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Sep 29, 2021 at 12:41 PM Post #11,555 of 25,508
I'd categorise Utopia as punchy headphone as well among TOTL options. Definitely not the biggest bass quantity, but the dynamic punch is nice, and help to make me feel engaging.

Last time I checked, my audiologist said that i'm all good :L3000:

I would agree. The Utopia is definitely punchy, it just doesn't have an ideal 'quantity' of bass, so it still has a bit of a lighter weight feel to a degree. TC and it are good potential complements, as well as potentially the other 30 new TOTL headphones being released now lol
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Post #11,556 of 25,508
I can agree with that, but I'd say that this applies to class A designs in general. At least I haven't yet heard a class A amp that would sound harsh and piercing. Some were quite polite though :wink:



Older Accuphase products I remember were on the soft and dense side, so more in line with class A, but recent amps of that manufacturer are said to be stiffer and leaner class AB types. If I may ask, where would you put your E-380?
I had the option of getting the Class A Accuphase e800 at a ridiculous price. I mulled over it, A/B-ed between the e800 and the e380, and settled on the e380, because it is a more forward and punchy sound. The treble is also more sparkly and I love the entire presentation.

The e800 however sounds more laidback, polite, smoother, which my older friends call “more refined” lol.

They are both great signatures but I preferred the Accuphase’s A/B amps to their Class A amps and Pass Labs’ Class A amps. But of course YMMV.
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 1:15 PM Post #11,557 of 25,508
For me Utopias and susvaras cover two different angles of indulgence in this hobby that have me covered

Well amped susvaras and utopias give me a hugely transparent option and a punchy detailed option.

and my need for filled out mids in their own way is covered by both.
Makes sense to me.
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 9:46 PM Post #11,559 of 25,508
Makes sense to me.
Have you heard of this amp? I wonder how it
Would pair with Susvara?

https://www.thesoundadvocate.com/2021/09/boenicke-p1-power-amplifier-full-review/

I have an Enleum amp 23-R ordered and Soo In is very excited about the new upgraded performance. Still can’t figure out if the 23-R is a headphone amp or speaker amp. “I actually got the final prototype here in San Jose a couple weeks ago, and I have to say it’s amazing and much upgraded from the old AMP-13R especially in bass range (more extended and defined), as well as it provides quieter background. I don’t think we can do any better than this for a long time, and this is most likely our end-game compact amplifier” He seems earnest and I know that he believes this to be true. I would love to stop this quest for a while.
 
Sep 30, 2021 at 1:18 AM Post #11,561 of 25,508
Have you heard of this amp? I wonder how it
Would pair with Susvara?

https://www.thesoundadvocate.com/2021/09/boenicke-p1-power-amplifier-full-review/

I have an Enleum amp 23-R ordered and Soo In is very excited about the new upgraded performance. Still can’t figure out if the 23-R is a headphone amp or speaker amp. “I actually got the final prototype here in San Jose a couple weeks ago, and I have to say it’s amazing and much upgraded from the old AMP-13R especially in bass range (more extended and defined), as well as it provides quieter background. I don’t think we can do any better than this for a long time, and this is most likely our end-game compact amplifier” He seems earnest and I know that he believes this to be true. I would love to stop this quest for a while.
amp 23-R should be great, man. Haven't heard of the boenicke p1.
 
Sep 30, 2021 at 5:27 AM Post #11,562 of 25,508
I had the option of getting the Class A Accuphase e800 at a ridiculous price. I mulled over it, A/B-ed between the e800 and the e380, and settled on the e380, because it is a more forward and punchy sound. The treble is also more sparkly and I love the entire presentation.

They are both great signatures but I preferred the Accuphase’s A/B amps to their Class A amps and Pass Labs’ Class A amps. But of course YMMV.

Thanks, this is all very understanadable. I'm sure that this more sporty sound characteristic works really nice with Susvara and your SF monitors :)

The e800 however sounds more laidback, polite, smoother, which my older friends call “more refined” lol.

That 'vintage' aesthetic got many people into Accuphase, but it's quite cool seeing that this company knows how to make fast and puchny amps as well.
 
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Sep 30, 2021 at 6:04 AM Post #11,564 of 25,508
Thanks, this is all very understanadable. I'm sure that this more sporty sound characteristic works really nice with Susvara and your SF monitors :)



That 'vintage' aesthetic got many people into Accuphase, but it's quite cool seeing that this company knows how to make fast and puchny amps as well.
Well, of course they do. 50 years of R&D, and quite the status they have achieved in 2-ch.

I have some friends who have invested the likes of small nations’ budgets in their 2-ch set up, and many prefer the Accuphase to Pass, Luxman or McIntosh. I personally consider them all very impressive and more or less at the same tier, although McIntosh’s tube amps are more competitive than their SS, IMHO.

I also like Gryphon and Dan D’Agostino a lot, as would most people I suppose, lol.

Interestingly, perhaps, I adore the Accuphase and TC combo, because once I got used to the TC’s tactile presentation, I started wanting more. 🙂
 
Sep 30, 2021 at 7:08 AM Post #11,565 of 25,508
I also like Gryphon and Dan D’Agostino a lot, as would most people I suppose, lol.

Those brands also make punchy and fast sounding products, so after knowing a bit about your taste I can see a pattern there. Interesgtingly it partially reflects what we recently did with our red devil.

Well, of course they do. 50 years of R&D, and quite the status they have achieved in 2-ch.

I agree.

I have some friends who have invested the likes of small nations’ budgets in their 2-ch set up, and many prefer the Accuphase to Pass, Luxman or McIntosh. I personally consider them all very impressive and more or less at the same tier, although McIntosh’s tube amps are more competitive than their SS, IMHO.

In leagues this high there are no bad choices I believe (only bad setup combinations :wink:), and each manufacturer you listed is really solid.
 
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