HiFiMan Susvara
Dec 1, 2021 at 12:22 PM Post #12,721 of 25,533
I don't believe in using speaker amps for headphones...as the blown drivers on this thread speak to. Get a powerful headphone amplifier and you'll love these headphones! The HSA-1b, HPA4, GS-X mini, GS-X Mk2 and now the AMP-23R are all brilliant with these hard to drive headphones.

Susvara was at its most ethereal on the Pass Labs XA25, for me, without having tried the Enleum of course.

I run the Susvaras these days off a copper cable and the H95, which gives it a bit more body and heft.
Which copper cable do you use? Arctic?
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 1:53 PM Post #12,722 of 25,533
Dec 1, 2021 at 1:55 PM Post #12,723 of 25,533
The EF1000 may be the greatest amp ever for the Sus?!?!

Hard to say when only one member that owns this amp posts here.
The $18K cost may be an issue but the WA33 Elite is right there as well all in at $17K + the tubes you would not 'need' but would want in that amp.
Yes, I would sure love to compare side by side a WA33 Elite vs the EF1000 vs the Bakoon 13R vs a top TOTL Speaker Amp with the Susvara's.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 3:05 PM Post #12,724 of 25,533
can I ask what wound determine how good the sus would sound out of speaker amps

I have an Avid Hifi - Integra would that be a suitable speaker amp for my susvara

https://www.avidhifi.com/amplifiers/integra-integrated-amplifier

I see the hegel h95 is not expensive compared to other totl amp, would you say that the best you heard the sus was with the h95, could you describe any difference compared to a totl headphone amp
Avid makes good gear, I would assume the Integra is at least worth trying with the Susvara.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 3:12 PM Post #12,725 of 25,533
so I have a violectric 590 and ifi pro dsd as dac using them connected by a tellerium xlr cable

would any of you suggest I use the ifi pro dsd as a preamp, and turn the volume all the way up on my violectric ( vio is set at +18 db gain ) , so that I control the volume from my ifi pro dsd
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 3:29 PM Post #12,726 of 25,533
so I have a violectric 590 and ifi pro dsd as dac using them connected by a tellerium xlr cable

would any of you suggest I use the ifi pro dsd as a preamp, and turn the volume all the way up on my violectric ( vio is set at +18 db gain ) , so that I control the volume from my ifi pro dsd
I wouldn’t turn up The amp 100% I would keep it around 85 and see how it sounds but I wouldn’t just plan on opening it up 100% and you’ll have to experiment to see which sounds better to you.
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 3:38 PM Post #12,727 of 25,533
I wouldn’t turn up The amp 100% I would keep it around 85 and see how it sounds but I wouldn’t just plan on opening it up 100% and you’ll have to experiment to see which sounds better to you.
it sounds fuller using the ifi pro dsd as a preamp, i might go to +6db gain now on my vio, as when i am on +18db i barely am using 15% of the volume on ifi pro dsd

i am getting a very full dynamic sound, and i find it handling the highs better that way being more smooth

the bass is insane and mids full
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 4:14 PM Post #12,728 of 25,533
it sounds fuller using the ifi pro dsd as a preamp, i might go to +6db gain now on my vio, as when i am on +18db i barely am using 15% of the volume on ifi pro dsd

i am getting a very full dynamic sound, and i find it handling the highs better that way being more smooth

the bass is insane and mids full
Love when I get to hear my favorite tracks all over again with a bit of different dressing on top. Makes for what can be the same old meal, fresh - new and exciting!!

I am a fan of the iCan Pro for the same sounds signature you describe.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 4:35 PM Post #12,729 of 25,533
I have the new Enleum AMP-23R and it has gobs of power and sounds great...but the HPA4 does hold its own...pretty close to my definition of full potential (whatever that means :p).
Have you used its predecessor? If so, were you able to compere them by any chance?
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 4:52 PM Post #12,730 of 25,533
Yes, I would sure love to compare side by side a WA33 Elite vs the EF1000 vs the Bakoon 13R vs a top TOTL Speaker Amp with the Susvara's.
TOTL Speaker amp? I wonder if my 200 watt per channel MSB power amp could do the Susvara justice??? :beyersmile:
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 4:55 PM Post #12,731 of 25,533
Love when I get to hear my favorite tracks all over again with a bit of different dressing on top. Makes for what can be the same old meal, fresh - new and exciting!!

I am a fan of the iCan Pro for the same sounds signature you describe.
I have the Pro iCan Signature. I'm extremely happy with it. I think I'm going to stick with it. iFi knows what they're doing.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 5:06 PM Post #12,732 of 25,533
Love when I get to hear my favorite tracks all over again with a bit of different dressing on top. Makes for what can be the same old meal, fresh - new and exciting!!

I am a fan of the iCan Pro for the same sounds signature you describe.
You sure got that right, and it sounds like a great reason to keep upgrading gear ad infinitum! But it is awesome when a song starts and you don't recognize it, and it's one you've heard loads of times but it sounds so... different, and usually better with more cool stuff to hear.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 5:15 PM Post #12,733 of 25,533
I have the Pro iCan Signature. I'm extremely happy with it. I think I'm going to stick with it. iFi knows what they're doing.

Thanks a lot! We believe that we know our onions, but finding a confirmation for it here on HF is rewarding :wink:
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 5:21 PM Post #12,734 of 25,533
TOTL Speaker amp? I wonder if my 200 watt per channel MSB power amp could do the Susvara justice??? :beyersmile:

The S200 supposedly does have some stuff in common with the new S201, and is supposedly a good buy at the used prices it comes up at. I haven't personally heard it, but it would likely be worth trying with the Susvara, if you have a similarly capable pre-amp.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 5:31 PM Post #12,735 of 25,533
The S200 supposedly does have some stuff in common with the new S201, and is supposedly a good buy at the used prices it comes up at. I haven't personally heard it, but it would likely be worth trying with the Susvara, if you have a similarly capable pre-amp.

I remember seeing MSB S204 monos several years ago in Munich... and just seeing these hulks was enough to remember them for years to come :)
 
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